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Offline Butcher

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2012, 08:43:54 AM »
If we started up SDL again I wouldn't mind being a neutral non-judge that simply reviews every single film for any kind of anomaly. reviewing every single film is not something anyone wants to do really, but i've been doing it for years in tournaments for other games (mainly looking for cheats).
Upgrade the rules and learn from the mistakes in the past, hopefully the Egos have learned and moved on. Make the rules where they simply will be not be "Bendable" getting caught simply you get ejected from the SDL leaving your wing 1 player down, failure to turn in a film etc.

I felt bad when SDL died, i really looked forward to jumping in on it back then, i've pretty much stopped playing right now due to being thrown out of the scenario, wouldn't mind focusing everything on getting the SDL going.

Don't think I will be flying anytime soon though.
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2012, 09:45:30 AM »
I can be a cheer leader :old:
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2012, 10:02:06 AM »
I can be a cheer leader :old:
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2012, 10:04:01 AM »
I can be a cheer leader :old:



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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2012, 10:08:03 AM »
 :rofl
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2012, 11:02:24 AM »
It sounds like a few things need to be addressed, but mainly the rules/regulations simply need to evolve.

It's like the Holy Roller/Immaculate Deception incident in (American) Football... it happened, and the rules were changed.

The ground rules need to be basic, too many rules is a bad idea for many reasons... you want enough leeway for each team to show their stuff... you WANT a distinct delineation betwixt "against the rules" and "frowned upon".   That's where legends are born.

Break things out with Home Team and Visitor.  Now break down the configurable rules.  Maps? Planes? Fuel?  Gun Package(s)?  Let the home team pick x rules for 2/3 of the maps, let the visitor pick x rules for 1/3 of the maps (all of this is rough at this point, but you get the idea).

The trick is consistency in application.  A really simple rule that pretty much spans the tournaments I have been in, regardless of genre, over the past 15 years or so: EVERY player/pilot records a film (or demo, or playback) and MUST send it in or their team forfeits.  Of course, these stipulations are agreed to prior to joining said tournament.

One thing that would get the ego hounds involved in this again would be if HTC were to post results on FB/AH Page...

It'll be months/years before I am even close to good enough to participate in something like this, but I would LOVE to watch!!  Some of you guys are downright artists, and seeing your moves firsthand is amazing - and I know I am not alone in that thinking.

Why don't you all stop being little faerie puff-puffs and put your big boy pants back on and bring back the World Cup of Aerial Asswhoopin?  The unwashed masses demand satisfaction!

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2012, 11:03:42 AM »
huh?

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2012, 11:14:07 AM »
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2012, 01:16:22 PM »
It sounds like a few things need to be addressed, but mainly the rules/regulations simply need to evolve.

It's like the Holy Roller/Immaculate Deception incident in (American) Football... it happened, and the rules were changed.

The ground rules need to be basic, too many rules is a bad idea for many reasons... you want enough leeway for each team to show their stuff... you WANT a distinct delineation betwixt "against the rules" and "frowned upon".   That's where legends are born.

Break things out with Home Team and Visitor.  Now break down the configurable rules.  Maps? Planes? Fuel?  Gun Package(s)?  Let the home team pick x rules for 2/3 of the maps, let the visitor pick x rules for 1/3 of the maps (all of this is rough at this point, but you get the idea).

The trick is consistency in application.  A really simple rule that pretty much spans the tournaments I have been in, regardless of genre, over the past 15 years or so: EVERY player/pilot records a film (or demo, or playback) and MUST send it in or their team forfeits.  Of course, these stipulations are agreed to prior to joining said tournament.

One thing that would get the ego hounds involved in this again would be if HTC were to post results on FB/AH Page...

It'll be months/years before I am even close to good enough to participate in something like this, but I would LOVE to watch!!  Some of you guys are downright artists, and seeing your moves firsthand is amazing - and I know I am not alone in that thinking.

Why don't you all stop being little faerie puff-puffs and put your big boy pants back on and bring back the World Cup of Aerial Asswhoopin?  The unwashed masses demand satisfaction!


You should apply to be the head of the SDL.
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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2012, 01:41:30 PM »
I can be a cheer leader :old:


Me too.   :x


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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2012, 01:57:29 PM »
You should apply to be the head of the SDL.

If enough squadron leaders were to commit to the league, and to having it run by the equivalent of summer 1945 Japanese replacement pilot skill-wise, I'd be happy to dedicate the time to restoring something like this.

The fact that there aren't more sanctioned squad vs. squad events/ladders does not speak very highly of the community at large... back in the day there was a decidedly friendlier air about the place. 

What I'd really like to see is a "Fantasy Aces High" league, where everyone interested signs up... team captains are chosen from those pilots who volunteer to be such, and then a ladder battle ensues over the course of the next month or whatever.  The problem with this is that it requires commitment not only to the ladder but to the TEAM they are chosen by...  i.e., you've got Dolby, Bruv, Pand, and Midway on the same team... and they have to be able to perform together AS a team... or get drubbed.

I set one of these up once before, long ago, in an FPS (mod) community... it broke down under the ego burden after the first few rounds... but the draft itself made it more than worth it.  With the egos around here, I doubt it'd get past the sign up phase hahahahaha

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Re: So, whatever happened to the SDL?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2012, 02:00:08 PM »
I wouldnt mind refereeing.

Hows this for an idea:

Anyone who wants to make an accusation about someone else breaking a rule (ho, entering the fight with an advantage AKA extra altitude) must provide film. If there is no film then no accusation can be made. Then everyone will start filming to insure that if needed they can support an accusation. Then when people know they are being filmed they are less likely to break rules, while still providing a system incase rules are broken.

Any other thoughts on this?