Fi-156 ability to spawn in on ground near spawnpoints

[tunnelrat]

I think this is a stupid attempt to troll.

Well, once again you'd be in the minority... as well as a bungmunch.  

[tunnelrat]

then why not allow the a20's to warp to the spawns too.  hell let the il2's be there too.  imagine all the time we can save.  after all the a20's and the il's and just about every other aircraft can spot gv's too.


semp

Yes, because it's the exact same thing... you know, aside from the ords/forward armament/VSTOL capability...   

[Butcher]

Well, once again you'd be in the minority... as well as a bungmunch.  

Consider this: most spawns are 6-7k from a base (Most as in typical) a Storch coming out of the hanger can see 3k right off the bat, it doesn't take long before he can see the max range, so why exactly do we need to spawn storch's?

Its designed to give defenders the edge slightly, allowing an enemy storch to spawn in gives the attackers a huge advantage over defenders, allowing the attacker to spawn in a storch repeatedly to point out defenders.

You can't look at bases like 135/85 - these are nothing more then camping zones, however other bases all it takes is one fighter bomber to roam around the spawn point to bust up a spawn.

[Lusche]

Its designed to give defenders the edge slightly, allowing an enemy storch to spawn in gives the attackers a huge advantage over defenders, allowing the attacker to spawn in a storch repeatedly to point out defenders.

As is, defenders of Vbases have a tremendous advantage over attackers even before the Storch was added. It has only become greater by it.

[Butcher]

As is, defenders of Vbases have a tremendous advantage over attackers even before the Storch was added. It has only become greater by it.

And by giving Attackers the ability to air spawn storch's shifts the balance rather then allow defenders to keep an edge over attackers, are we wanting bases more easily taken?

[matt]

Definitely an idea to be able to drop vehicle supplies from the air, maybe, in the fullness of time, we could get a C47 or something that could drop supplies and troops etc from the air.................

Oh wait  

i'm talking about droping supps in the air with the fi-156 

[tunnelrat]

And by giving Attackers the ability to air spawn storch's shifts the balance rather then allow defenders to keep an edge over attackers, are we wanting bases more easily taken?

No one is saying air-spawning Fi-156, just ground spawn them and let the pilot take off (obviously would take a little doing to prevent them from spawning in trees).

Spawn campers could still shoot them on the ground and or as they lift off... it's not like storches are particularly hard to kill...

As far as distance, it takes a storch more than 15 minutes - at best possible speed - to fly 25 miles...  try it some time... in practice it's a long, extremely boring trip that you will only survive if *0* air cons are in the area.  If you were able to start near the GV spawn, at least you'd have possible cover in the form of allied SPAAG.

[danny76]

i'm talking about droping supps in the air with the fi-156 

Excellent point, it would be a bonus if the Storch could be used for supply drops, only as long as the supplies needed did not extend further than a track link and a ham sandwich. otherwise its staying on the ground.

[earl1937]

  Great idea!! I would also like to make the suggestion of not having ICON's show on Storch's. That way, they would have a chance to stay alive long enough to be effective!

[Butcher]

No one is saying air-spawning Fi-156, just ground spawn them and let the pilot take off (obviously would take a little doing to prevent them from spawning in trees).

There is a problem with this, Spawn's are not exactly dictated - some maps ground vehicles spawn on the side of cliffs, most likely will happen is a Storch will spawn with a tree 2 feet in front of it.

How will this work if 9 out of 10 times you spawn with a tree in the front?

[tunnelrat]

There is a problem with this, Spawn's are not exactly dictated - some maps ground vehicles spawn on the side of cliffs, most likely will happen is a Storch will spawn with a tree 2 feet in front of it.

How will this work if 9 out of 10 times you spawn with a tree in the front?

That's why it's a wish list. I wish we could spawn storches, on the ground, at spawn points with the GVs.

I would be all for it as it stands, as the number of times you spawn in a location that would be impossible to maneuver out of are more like 1 out of 10... but we'll see.

I would be against any air-start of any kind in the MA... just sayin.

[guncrasher]

I dont see how one of the reasons for storch spawning is for supplies.  hell a jeep or an m3 would be faster and easier to not be a target.


semp

[talos]

I dont see how one of the reasons for storch spawning is for supplies.  hell a jeep or an m3 would be faster and easier to not be a target.

Supplies on the Storch are a bonus

there are there so that if there is a Storch in the area, and you need supplies it can be done quickly. If you are upping a Storch to take V supplies to a wounded tank there is a problem

[Tank-Ace]

1) storchs don't carry HE or forward firing guns, so entirely different from an il-2.

2) the storch is a light utility aircraft, and this is the type of thing they could do, and did, during the war.

3) use a different system of spawning for the storch. Hell, give it an airspawn 6" off the ground, so it's essentially a non-variable ground spawn.

4) yes, we do want to remove some of the advantage of the defenders. The more that vehicles can do without waiting for distant support to arrive, the better. If we get artillery, and it's as effective as bombs at taking out hangers and ord, well that's fantastic!