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Offline fuzeman

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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2012, 10:29:29 PM »
Never understood the ethical side of bombing the Narzzie cities because they bombed your cities first :old:

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What part of war is ever ethical?
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 01:01:11 AM »
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 01:06:40 AM »
Been quite a respectable build-up to this on Aussie TV over the last few weeks.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 03:37:24 AM »
What part of war is ever ethical?

To stop people murdering other people is ethical :old:

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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 03:46:26 AM »
To stop people murdering other people


By murdering them.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 04:05:33 AM »
You jack tulips can't drag the men from any side of that war through the mud.


Just stop it now.


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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 04:39:19 AM »
You jack tulips can't drag the men from any side of that war through the mud.


Just stop it now.


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To the men that fought and died as Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors, Marines And whatever else special labels handed out.



Remember that guy that snatched The Duece from that mountainside in a Storch?

That was bad Pie right there.


Saying war is not ethical is not dragging anyone through the mud.

Sometimes its necessary. I agree.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 05:15:11 AM »
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 05:24:07 AM »
By murdering them.

Yes they started it.

So did Japan or is that different?

The narzzies started it and they got what was coming to them.

Bomber command were brilliant at destroying the infrastructure of the Narzzie empire well done.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2012, 06:23:53 AM »

Bomber command were brilliant at destroying the infrastructure of the Narzzie empire well done.

Well done indeed.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2012, 07:46:03 AM »
Bomber command was indeed Heros. The woman and children who dies from their bombs were victims of the Nazis tyrrany. Not the British, or the Yanks. We didnt have "smart weapons" back then. Only racist, genocidal enemies who had to be stopped at any cost.

Ive always thought Bomber Command never got the credit they deserved for both their contributions and their losses during that terrible war. Maybe this memorial is a beginning step to give the honor RAFs Bomber Command deserves in History. I myself blame higher education for this situation. To many ex-flag burning Professors take perfectly normal kids and mindscrew them into hating the generation that saved all their Lives.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2012, 08:38:46 AM »
The only really questionable raids were Dresden and Hamburg I think, and that was decided at a higher level than the men who had to fly the operations.  I recall seeing an interview with a German civilian who described being at a Joseph Goebbels rally in which Goebbels was extorting the crowd that they needed total war to win and getting the crowd to shout back that yes, they wanted total war.  The German gentleman finished his comment by saying that Goebbels got his total war, just not like he expected it.

As to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, well, I think those saved Japanese culture and perhaps even prevented the Cuban Missile Crisis from going hot.  We were expecting 1,000,000 American casualties and 10,000,000 Japanese casualties during the first part of the invasion of Japan.  The Japanese knew exactly where we were going to land and had hoarded huge amounts of fuel, aircraft and other weapons for the final stand.  They had tried to turn Japanese civilians into untrained, unequipped soldiers telling them to attack our men with anything they could.  The Soviets would have invaded from the north as well, leaving Japan split into North Japan and South Japan as Germany was split into East Germany and West Germany.  It would have been horrific.

Additionally, the full horror that nuclear weapons cause when used on people and cities instead of just unoccupied desert was made glaringly apparent to the world and, perhaps, that helped the Soviets and Americans in 1962 to find other means of resolving the crisis.
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 09:18:51 AM »
Personally I don't question the ethical arguments of the raids made by Bomber Command.
Thousands of incendiaries were dropped on London.
Civilians were burnt alive and trapped in firestorms created by the German raids on us.

The young brave people who served with Bomber Command were told where to be and when.
It's long overdue that full recognition is given.
It should also be remembered that the German pilots and crews were equally as brave
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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 09:20:21 AM »
Personally I don't question the ethical arguments of the raids made by Bomber Command.
Thousands of incendiaries were dropped on London.
Civilians were burnt alive and trapped in firestorms created by the German raids on us.

The young brave people who served with Bomber Command were told where to be and when.
It's long overdue that full recognition is given.
It should also be remembered that the German pilots and crews were equally as brave


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Re: RAF Bomber command memorial.
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 11:18:15 AM »
 :salute Bomber Command - including my late uncle.....

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