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Re: monitors
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2012, 11:31:19 PM »
the resolution isn't limited by cable bandwidth

Why would you say that? Single link DVI has much lower max resolution than dual link.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2012, 09:25:14 AM »
Why would you say that? Single link DVI has much lower max resolution than dual link.
it's resolution times refresh rate isn't it? pretty sure it's the refresh rate that decreases as you increase resolution. single link dvi can run 3,840 × 2,400 at 17hz and dual link dvi can run 3,840 × 2,400 at 33hz. same resolution capacity, different refresh rate.
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Re: monitors
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2012, 08:13:46 PM »



well, it may help but can't say to what extent. if you have really bad vision, a good 40-42 inch 1080p television may be the most economical way to go. might ask morfiend what he's using.

  I was using a 47in LG 3d LV5500 but like I said I was getting some 3d crosstalk,so I went to a 55in LG2d unit not sure of model # and too lazy to got to the mancave to check it.

   I choose the LG's because of the response rate which was about the best,the picture is close to my sammy 24in monitor,however the pixel size is much larger. For me thats a good thing and I read with it as I dont need glasses.  I guess it depends on many things and how far or close you sit makes a huge difference,IMHO.


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Re: monitors
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 04:07:02 AM »
it's resolution times refresh rate isn't it? pretty sure it's the refresh rate that decreases as you increase resolution. single link dvi can run 3,840 × 2,400 at 17hz and dual link dvi can run 3,840 × 2,400 at 33hz. same resolution capacity, different refresh rate.

So resolution x refresh = bandwith. Both define the required link type. That's why I wondered why you say resolution is not bandwith dependent. Of course it's differently way bandwith dependent than in old analog interfaces.
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2012, 09:52:26 PM »
This is what i have been using and you cant beat the price at 299.99. And with best buys you have a 30 day return if its not for you.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B+-+40%22+Class+-+LCD+-+1080p+-+60Hz+-+HDTV/2620821.p?id=1218340598798&skuId=2620821

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Re: monitors
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2012, 01:02:49 PM »
Get this and don't look back.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236091


I have one, got it for a great price but ran into a common problem with Asus monitors.

After a while, or while still under warranty they have a tendency to become very annoying.  It seems to be an issue with one of the dry contacts for the buttons on the front of the monitor. 

This is what happens.
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This is very annoying because it covers up your cross hairs.  I was able to 'fix' mine by opening the case and unplugging the control board behind the buttons.

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2012, 01:55:12 PM »
Five years ago when my CRT monitor packed up I was forced to get an LCD one instead. While it has worked well for most things, I was always a bit disappointed with it in AH. The drop from 80 to 60hz wasn't really noticeable in itself but there was always a bit of input lag. When flying very low I could see the terrain give tiny jumps every few frames, it just wasn't smooth.

I have recently got a 120hz monitor and this has eliminated the input lag. Flying low now lets the terrain scroll smoothly. I could be kidding myself, but it seems a bit easier to track and shoot maneuvering opponents too.

Are you sure that what you are calling input lag isnt actually your card exceeding its maximum horizontal frequency?
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 01:17:15 AM »
Are you sure that what you are calling input lag isnt actually your card exceeding its maximum horizontal frequency?

Yep what he described was not input lag. Input lag is a constant delay in everything that displays on the screen. Mostly you can only notice it by having two different monitors side by side showing the same image, then you see the other lagging behind.

One easy example is to connect your laptop to a hd-tv and then compare mouse movement on laptop screen and on tv - the tv usually lags badly behind.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2012, 06:38:01 PM »
I just spent a large portion of my day off doing research into 120Hz monitors, and decided to get the BenQ XL2420T.  I thought seriously about a "Iiyama ProLite G2773HS", since it is larger and tested to be just as fast, but it doesn't support DisplayPort (very minor, I'm not going to use DisplayPort yet either) and its apparently only really sold in Europe, the US prices for it are very high.

One reason I'm upgrading is that my current monitor's screen is glossy, and I've recently moved and now my computer room receives a lot of light.  The reflection are really bad.  I need a matte-style screen again, so I used this as an excuse to upgrade.

As for the connector, the one you'll want for 120Hz computer monitors is a "Dual Link DVI" cable, more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface#Dual-link_DVI .  Which isn't a big deal, the DVI cables I've gotten with my past two monitors were both Dual Link and I didn't even know it, nor did they technically require it.  But it is required for 120Hz operation (or DisplayPort), HDMI isn't capable.
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2012, 05:26:32 AM »
don't underestimate the need for displayport, its a real plus for multi monitor installations and is becoming the standard on the computers, on top of being the best monitor connection right now.
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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2012, 05:56:45 AM »
I have display ports on my HD6970 are they better than HDMI?

Monitor/TV discussions are very confusing.

I have a Samsung LCD TV and dont believe it has lag and if it does I don't want to investigate it and find it has.

FSP rates are in my opinion are a bit obessesional in game, I stopped looking at it and just looked how the game was playing and looking.

Could someone produce a list of say the top 5 good monitors/tv's so we have a focal point for investigation.

There are people in game who are more informed about this topic than myself.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2012, 06:35:44 AM »
At equal resolutions HDMI = DesplayPort, its just that displayport supports more resolutions, more screens, and 3D gaming
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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2012, 08:21:07 AM »
At equal resolutions HDMI = DesplayPort, its just that displayport supports more resolutions, more screens, and 3D gaming
more screens? explain please...

if you want to use 120hz or higher monitors (needed for 3d gaming) you need dual link dvi or display port...hdmi won't support higher than 60hz refresh rate right now.
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2012, 08:49:33 AM »
ATI cards only have 2 of the channels needed for DVI or HDMI screens (can't remember the name). As a result if you want to have 3 screens, one of them has to be DisplayPort, or DP to VGA, or active DP to DVI.

You can also have a screen in DisplayPort, and plug the others as slaves on the main screen, all in displayport (only seen the schematics). In any case DisplayPort is the less limited of all the current standards, and If I get new hardware I'll make sure its displayport.
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2012, 09:25:58 AM »
ah i get it. thanks Noir.
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