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Offline Midway

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Make CV gun results more realistic
« on: July 03, 2012, 11:22:45 AM »
My father served on the USS Callaghan, a late war Fletcher class destroyer. To simplify slightly, their second assignment was working with escort carriers. While doing so at Saipan on June 17th, they shot down 3 incoming jap dive bombers. All downed by the 40s. They shot down 12 total during the war. Almost all were shot down by their 40mm mounts. Their 5" just didn't seem to be as effective. Proof was the night they were sunk July 29th, 45. They were at Okinawa and the big threat was kamikazes. They were ordered not to fire any automatics (40s or 20s) so as to not give the boogies an aiming point by following the tracers. A flight of kamikazes flying training planes (slow) came out to their radar station. One kamakaze detached and made a couple of runs. Three destroyers on station fired away with their 5". No effect except to drive him off the first time. One the second run in he flew straight into the No 3 5" mount on the Callaghan. So it became the last destroyer sunk by kamakaze in the war. I interviewed the assistant gunnery officer. He was convinced that if they had been allowed to use the 40s they would have knocked that plane down. The computer that was used with the main battery (5") was mechanical and about the size of a refrigerator. They had problems with it early on and then again at Okinawa. It was hard to keep the system calibrated.

My impression was that dual purpose guns like the 5" particularly from multiple ships was effective against level bombers. But largely ineffective against anything that maneuvered or in a high speed dive.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,335501.msg4414766.html#msg4414766

I wish 40mm guns were more realistic and 5" guns as well.  Does Aces High fighter stats results around CVs come close to what they were really like? :headscratch:


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Offline Noir

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Re: Make CV gun results more realistic
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 11:26:00 AM »
well the 40mm's are there and effective.

The 5inch efficiency in AH makes me  :headscratch: tho, it has a very modern feeling to it

But again you will need more than a story to give your wish some weight
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Offline titanic3

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Re: Make CV gun results more realistic
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 11:27:16 AM »
Flew 2 sorties. Pop 3K in a F4U-4, wing came off 5 seconds later. Second sortie, turn fighting a Yak in a A6M. Get shot at by my own puffy and I get flamed. And I know it's my own puffy because it was the only CV in the area.  :bhead

Rage logged right after.

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Offline Scotty55OEFVet

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Re: Make CV gun results more realistic
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 12:10:59 AM »
A long time ago, I was curious as to the accuracy and amount of munitions expended for every aircraft downed. Now, aside form the low and slow aircraft turn fighting or BnZin' around the CV groups that almsot 95% of the time get smoked by the ack, the amount of ammo expended was ridiculous. I think just for the 40mm alone it was something like 40,000 rounds for every 1 plane shot down. I could be wrong cuz I posted it like 4 years ago, but you can look it up. Oh, and how is it goin Middy?
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Offline Ruah

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Re: Make CV gun results more realistic
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 12:54:10 AM »
realism aside. . . CV puffy sucks.  And I know when I man them, I ruin a lot of sorties with no effort.

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