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Offline shotgunneeley

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Engine Oil Hit
« on: July 28, 2012, 10:34:57 PM »
When the engine's oil reserve gets hit it will leak out of the damaged engine causing it to eventually overheat and seize up. At this point, shouldn't the affected engine stop leaking oil similar to how a fuel tank stops leaking once it runs dry?

Additionally, I'd like to see the possibility of having an engine catching fire instead of just the fuel tanks. Unlike a fuel fire, the player would have the opportunity to feather the engine / dive for speed in order to snuff out the fire and save the wing/plane. I'd imagine this type of fire would not be as spectacular as a fuel fire, maybe a little flame mixed in with the leaking engine oil.
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Offline shotgunneeley

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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 07:32:22 AM »
I guess radiator fluid should stop leaking when it runs out as well.
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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 11:15:46 PM »
+1 on the engine fire.
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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 07:10:37 AM »
Engine fires exist in AH. B29's have engine fires.
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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 06:46:58 PM »
What I've always thought was that if an engine runs out without oil/lubricant, then it will eventually either seize up or the super heated gasses and friction will cause the leaking oil to combust. Since we don't have cut fuel lines modeled in the game, I'm going to by pass that. To prevent an engine fire, the player could feather the engine to keep it from over heating; "running in the red" sorta speak. If an engine fire does occur, the player kill the engine all together and make a dive to snuff out the flame (although in my case this would likely fan the fire right to my fuel tank!). I figure this would be a slower burning fire compared to a fuel tank fire, so the player would have a minute or so to act accordingly or risk losing the wing/fuselage all together.

As far as all leaking fluids go (oil, radiator fluid, fuel), shouldn't the affected area stop producing a stream of the fluid similar to how the fuel quits leaking when the damaged tank runs dry?
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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 07:41:42 PM »
what makes you think that whoever caught you on fire is just gonna give up and let you feather or dive to smother the flames?


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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 07:53:37 PM »
what makes you think that whoever caught you on fire is just gonna give up and let you feather or dive to smother the flames?


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In the case of bombers, maybe the enemy fighter died during the attack or at least pulled off to get in position for another run. During this grace period, I'd think it would behoove the bomber pilot the do whatever he/she's gotta do to keep that engine from failing.

For single-engine fighters it would more likely be a moot point, but there have been plenty of times I've taken an oil hit and managed to get away due to friendlies having my back or the like.  
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Re: Engine Oil Hit
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 12:08:19 AM »
In the case of bombers, maybe the enemy fighter died during the attack or at least pulled off to get in position for another run. During this grace period, I'd think it would behoove the bomber pilot the do whatever he/she's gotta do to keep that engine from failing.

For single-engine fighters it would more likely be a moot point, but there have been plenty of times I've taken an oil hit and managed to get away due to friendlies having my back or the like.  

considering that most fights happen at around 5k or less and that in fighters if there was a fire in the engine most pilots would bail, not sure if it's worth the trouble to code it.  I think that if you are on fire then basically give the other guy the benefit of a kill since he earned it.  we already have way too many pilots with airplanes ripped to shreds that will ride it all the way down hoping the guy who did it would get killed.

think we should move more towards the if you get damaged beyond repair it should automatically grant a kill to whoever did it, even if the pilot is alive.  I mean in ww2 if you took both wings off that counted as a kill.  I think we should concentrate on fighting to avoid getting killed instead instead of trying figure out ways to change the code in order to not grant kills.


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