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Offline Rino

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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2012, 02:49:36 PM »
     Gotta love Russian museums, tow it out to some concrete pads and slap some chocks on it...instant display  :aok
At least they don't replace the canopies with blue aluminum like the USAF seems to.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2012, 07:21:51 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 30, 2012, 09:56:24 AM
No, in both cases the Russians built their own.  Contrary to some people's beliefs, Russians and Japanese people aren't stupid and incapable of creating their own successful designs.

I don't think anyones saying they can't. But they're clearly good at taking ideas from outside their country, and adapting them.


RPG? AK-47 (and no matter what anyone says, it was clearly at least influenced by the Mp-44), etc.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2012, 07:45:21 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 30, 2012, 07:21:51 PM
I don't think anyones saying they can't. But they're clearly good at taking ideas from outside their country, and adapting them.


RPG? AK-47 (and no matter what anyone says, it was clearly at least influenced by the Mp-44), etc.

I'm sure that having Hugo Schmeisser (designer of the StG-44) as a member of his design team after the war may explain the similar look between both assault rifles.  The AK-47 when it was designed incorporated a lot of design influences from other guns like the double locking lugs and unlocking raceway of the M1 Garand/M1 Carbine, the safety mechanism of the Remington Model 8 rifle and the gas system of the StG-44.

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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2012, 11:05:06 PM »
Quote from: Rino on July 30, 2012, 02:49:36 PM
     Gotta love Russian museums, tow it out to some concrete pads and slap some chocks on it...instant display  :aok
At least they don't replace the canopies with blue aluminum like the USAF seems to.

If you're ever in Moscow, visit this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_the_Great_Patriotic_War,_Moscow

Most impressive WW2 museum I've ever seen.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2012, 10:28:12 AM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on July 30, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
Not for the MiG-15.

Maybe for the MiG-9...
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I agree but you can bet it was some German blue print the Russians stumbled across in kurt Tank's deck. Like the English jet engine the MP-44 the M-1 rifles bolt locking system and on and on.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2012, 11:36:13 AM »
Wasn't the Ta-183 prototype taken by the Soviet forces and turned into the Mig 9 and then the Mig-15?
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2012, 11:43:36 AM »
Quote from: Mister Fork on July 31, 2012, 11:36:13 AM
Wasn't the Ta-183 prototype taken by the Soviet forces and turned into the Mig-15?

No.
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