perk point threshold for attaboys

[Debrody]

Im not impressed by either of you.

We arent impressed by you either. 1:1
Anyway, i like a good old-fashioned self-promo, my best was 82.69 in a g6, for 12 kills on mostly spixteens, ponies and dhogs, in 45 mins, 1 rearm. I never went above 8K.
You know, im average at best. Beat this, if you can take a "challenge".
 

[Chalenge]

that's basically what I said genius

i just find it funny that you would ascribe such an underhand motivation to Tilt's request. if it's not because you are the sort of bad sport that you are trying to paint him as, then it must be because you are a generic P-51D scrub pilot who feels this request would make it harder to get a name in lights ;o  which is it?

Ha! You cant get to me coombz. I know what you are.

[Chalenge]

We arent impressed by you either. 1:1
Anyway, i like a good old-fashioned self-promo, my best was 82.69 in a g6, for 12 kills on mostly spixteens, ponies and dhogs, in 45 mins, 1 rearm. I never went above 8K.
You know, im average at best. Beat this, if you can take a "challenge".
 

Beat that long ago Debrody. Coming from the queen of whiners thats a powerful boast you made. Keep trying. 

[guncrasher]

We arent impressed by you either. 1:1
Anyway, i like a good old-fashioned self-promo, my best was 82.69 in a g6, for 12 kills on mostly spixteens, ponies and dhogs, in 45 mins, 1 rearm. I never went above 8K.
You know, im average at best. Beat this, if you can take a "challenge".
 

mine was 2.86 for 11 kills in a ponyd  .  that was a good day.  only 6 kills were with rocket vulches  .


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[fuzeman]

anyone know the command to stop all the atta boys?
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IIRC , try a .squelch 1

Read page 1 and replied, Hap beat me to it with Reply #20.

[Debrody]

Beat that long ago Debrody. Coming from the queen of whiners thats a powerful boast you made. Keep trying. 

Good Sir, nice insult attempt, but i can take it. Still, if i were you, i would prove myself before opening my mouth to show my forked toungue, not only picking from 20k or concrete sitting in tiger2s.
Cause i cant get up to your unrivalled skills. As long as i cant find you withouth holding all the cards.

[bozon]

Its a self-propagating wish. You want less attaboys so you force people to fly lesser planes. The better planes kill more of the lesser planes and the same attaboys are repeated.

A little thought goes a long way! 

Kill 2 P51D in your P51D and you have 2 perks. The single digit ENY planes are quite abundant and these are the planes A noob is most likely to vulc... kill anyway. At the same time, I bet that in at least in 2/3 encounters in the LMA, the C205 will beat the P51D (can this be queried in the statistics?), just because of who tends to fly them.

I cannot see how this will make any significant difference to anyone.

[Lusche]

At the same time, I bet that in at least in 2/3 encounters in the LMA, the C205 will beat the P51D (can this be queried in the statistics?), just because of who tends to fly them.

Can it be queried? Of course it can! Stats pages, Plane Stats, click on the C205 kills and see how often it killed the P-51. Then go back, click on C205 deatsh and see how often it was shot down by P-51D. And if you do that for several tours, you get an overall picture.

But lucky you, I have already done that for every plane/GV combination possible, for all tours   For example, in all of 2011, the C.205 had 2,552 kills vs. 2,856 deaths against the D-Pony. So the Pony 'won' ~53% of the (conclusive) encounters.





To not entirely hijack this thread, here's my take on the OP:
My question: what is an 'attaboy'? Who is being targeted by this proposal, and what would it be good for? Because the only players that would be affected are the mass of new players, n00bs and other folks who are only occasionally capable of killing two planes in the P-51D and landing it.
For all that are able to regularly able to do that (which is the minority of players in any given tour) and getting their WTG's, it's quite easy to get over this threshhold. They will still get all the "attention".

[Tilt]

My question: what is an 'attaboy'? Who is being targeted by this proposal, and what would it be good for? Because the only players that would be affected are the mass of new players, n00bs and other folks who are only occasionally capable of killing two planes in the P-51D and landing it.
For all that are able to regularly able to do that (which is the minority of players in any given tour) and getting their WTG's, it's quite easy to get over this threshhold. They will still get all the "attention".

Also bomber pilits returning with less than 2 perks would lose their attaboys.

re Bozons maths we should also remember that the perk point multiplier would also play a role.

I would agree that the gameplay effect could be somewhat "subtle" but IMO it would motivate folk (who like attaboys) to fly higher eny ac and target lower eny ac.

[Lusche]

Then I would like to ask my question again: What is an attaboy (yes, this is a serious question), and who is this proposed limitation aimed at? Those constantly landing 2,3 4 and higher kills in their low eny rides, or those only occasionally being capable to so?


As is the proposal would hardly have any influence on plane choice, it's much weaker in it's effect than ENY limit and the massive reduction in perk gain players do suffer from flying a P-51D in the first place. Even when the ENY of the Pony was lowered to 5, with it's massive effect (ENY limiter, almost 40% in perk gain reduction), the usage numbers still went up.

If  the goal of this proposal was to increase plane diversity, there would be much stronger tools than that - further lowering ENY, lowering the threshold at wich the ENY limiter kicks in, perking, making ENY part of the score calculation, perked ords system for fighters and so on.

[Tilt]

Well it is targetting a subtle push re plane diversity without penalising choice as much as a (harder) ENY limiter does or denying reward interms of modifying perks earned (even if they are only parts of a perk).

I doubt it would be earth shatteringly quatum in terms of its effect and I doubt that any "massive" change would be welcome anyway. If it "makes no difference" to many players but motivates some toward more diverse rides then "job done" IMO.

It may generate better appreciation of the attaboys when they are earned............ even in the examples given above the P51 landing two kills (and getting its attaboy) did take them against more capable ac. It didn't farm a proxy and shoot down a PT boat to earn the same plaudits.

Plus I return to the Bomber attaboy also.

So its not trying to "target" any one in a negative sense other than it's focussing reward upon achievement by adding the perks earned (and therefore the ENY value of the ride chosen) into the mix.

[Zoney]

I would like to see the "kill message" go up to 5.  Ace in a flight or no message.

[Slade]

I would like to see the "kill message" go up to 5.  Ace in a flight or no message.

There would be long lines at the rearm pad.  Good thing it is an asynchronous rearm pad at that, i.e. don't have to wait for guy in front of you.

I say keep the rearm pad and attaboy message as-is.  Just put an asterisks (*) in the message if the rearm pad was used.  Kinda like what the home run hitters of the baseball steroid era get in the record books if convicted of using steroids.

[guncrasher]

I would like to see no kill messages for anyone with 2 or more years playing.


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[Noir]

according to google, attaboy is bravo, I understand it as players seeking name in lights.

+1 on the wish, landing only 2 kills is a disgrace