Photo of manouver that caused China/US spyplane incident

[Maverick]

 

Originally posted by Ddriag:
The chinese pilot was obviously a malicious killer on a spree! I hate the idea that the US is blameless for this incident. The Chinese fighter pilot felt he was right, he did HIS duty. G Bush would rather sacrifice the American crew rather than apologise. What a knobend.
Ddriag.
 

I am really confused here. The Chinese pilots duty was to shadow and monitor the reconnaissance aircraft's actions and ensure it didn't intrude in their airspace. He's flying a high performance plane and is flying so close to a slower, less maneuverable and lager aircraft in a position where the crew of the larger aircraft cannot see him and causes a midair collision. Now somehow you seem to feel it was the U.S. crews fault???????? I don't follow your reasoning here at all.

Second point, you seem to feel Bush should apologize for the stupidity of the chinese pilots actions?????? WTF for?????

Is your distaste, let me say prejudice, towards the U.S. so strong that you can't stand to not blame it for something??

Get a life. Want to see a knobend??(whatever that is) I suggest you look in the mirror.

Mav

[Moose11]

Guys, just take it to the O Club. When the truth comes out about the incident (if it ever does) then we'll see whose fault it is. The US media makes all Americans think that the smaller plane obviously must have been hotdogging it. The Chinese government forces their citizens to believe that somehow the EP-8 was able to manuver so quickly and aggressively that it rammed the fighter.

I'd be willing to bet its a case of 'it takes two to tango.'

oh, and Wobble, I swear you must have been dropped on your head when you were little. Your inconsideration to the Chinese pilot's life is somewhat similar to MGs attitude towards Sniper on the agw boards. In both cases, a man is dead and gone. Don't trod on his grave, because then you'll quickly find what friends you have won't want to be associated with you.

[Ddriag]

Mav

I never meant to imply that it was anyones fault. You sound like you were obviously in the plane, so I'll bow to your interpretation!
What I find objectionable is prolonging the captivity of the crew for the cost of an apology. If the objective was to get them out of danger and home to their families, he'd have done it by now.

[-tronski-]

 Its called a joke joyce...

 Tronsky

[Redwolfe]

Ddraig

Far be for me to presume to understand exactly what is being discussed between our country and China over this incident but bear this in mind. In China, an apology is both a powerful expression of regret and an ADMISSION of wrongdoing/guilt. If the US were to issue an apology to China I would not be surprised to see some/all of those service members put on trial for some type of homicide charge (Remember what I just said, If the US were to apologize for the death of the Chinese pilot, we would be admitting that we were to blame for said death) The outcome of which could likely be execution of some/all of those service members. If this sounds farfetched to you then recall that we are talking about China, a country widely known for it's idea of "human rights" or lack thereof. Therefore I believe that apologizing would be the worst possible course of action in this matter. Not to mention the fact that there is no possible way our plane could have been at fault....it's slower, less maneuverable, generally flies on a steady heading, and is much easier to see then the fighter the Chinese "hotshot" was flying. What is really appalling about this is that a Chinese love muffin rams our plane FORCING it to land where it did and they have the gall to hold our servicemen captive because they landed without permission.....AND THEY WANT AN APOLOGY!! Yeah, as you see, it kind of ticks me off...Ah well, just my opinion, take it as you wish...

Redwolfe

[This message has been edited by Redwolfe (edited 04-10-2001).]