Author Topic: wind layer at 30k  (Read 3299 times)

Offline VonMessa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11922
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2012, 07:22:01 PM »
von get in to a b29 climb to 30k and see if you can hit a hangar with only 3 500s from each plane then tell me what happens plz...............

Inductive Fallacy
Premise 1: Having just arrived in Ohio, I saw a white squirrel.
Conclusion: All Ohio Squirrels are white.
(While there are many, many squirrels in Ohio, the white ones are very rare).

That is only because there are 3 bombs in the load-out.  Simple math will tell you that it is not possible due to the spread of 3 bombs from that alt. unless, of course, the AH world is flat, in which case it may be indeed possible.

Trying to use one example to prove the rule is fallacious.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 07:23:41 PM by VonMessa »
Braümeister und Schmutziger Hund von JG11


We are all here because we are not all there.

Offline Eric19

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 591
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2012, 07:37:26 PM »
it is possible I have done it before in a B17 at 32k it only takes 3k of ords to kill a hangar von but if you must try it with 5 bombs it is still none the less very time comsuming because you are not accurate enough at that high alt in a b29
oh and by the way von I am with one of the best bomber squads in the game so you ain't pulling the wool over my eyes so to speak
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 07:39:40 PM by Eric19 »
Proud member of the 91ST BG (H) The Ragged Irregulars

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6996
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2012, 08:34:59 PM »
The easy solution is to make the town centers worthless as far as bombing points are concerned.

Offline VonMessa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11922
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2012, 08:57:01 PM »
it is possible I have done it before in a B17 at 32k it only takes 3k of ords to kill a hangar von but if you must try it with 5 bombs it is still none the less very time comsuming because you are not accurate enough at that high alt in a b29
oh and by the way von I am with one of the best bomber squads in the game so you ain't pulling the wool over my eyes so to speak

You keep using one particular aircraft to cultivate your whole argument.  What point exactly are you trying to prove?

Congratulations to you and your bomber squad.  Your ranking and $1 may still bag you a cup of coffee.  Am I to assume that because the folks you associate yourself with possibly exhibit a modicum of skill in bombing that you, yourself are also an authority on it by osmosis?

Pulling the wool over your eyes?   :headscratch:

Braümeister und Schmutziger Hund von JG11


We are all here because we are not all there.

Offline thndregg

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4032
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2012, 10:09:44 PM »
I see no need to change things. I still run a B17 missions here & there at various altitudes, and usually provoke a good fight up high. Sometimes we get obliterated, sometimes we manage to survive. Damn good fun.  :cool:
Former C.O. 91st Bombardment Group (Heavy)
"The Ragged Irregulars"

Offline VonMessa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11922
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2012, 07:12:59 AM »
I see no need to change things. I still run a B17 missions here & there at various altitudes, and usually provoke a good fight up high. Sometimes we get obliterated, sometimes we manage to survive. Damn good fun.  :cool:

You are a good Egg and are an exception to the rule.

 :salute
Braümeister und Schmutziger Hund von JG11


We are all here because we are not all there.

Offline Debrody

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4487
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2012, 07:25:17 AM »
I never went after 20k+ buffs. It takes about 6 mins only to climb up, not talking about catching up a 290mph bomber, then when youre struggling to get into firing position, they can shoot you from 1.5k out, taking out your only oil (blinded, limited time) or radiator (youre a glider in 30 secs). Also, if you would like to reach any success, you have to build up a large speed difference, you have to climb at least 5-6k higher, only to face 3*12 guns shooting at you.

It just dont worth my time. Some people like flying alone, they are the ones in bombers at 36k. I cant get why they are paying when they can get the same experience in offline mode.
Make the people want to interact with each other please.
AoM
City of ice

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6996
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2012, 09:54:14 AM »
If you make the town centers worthless as far as points, a far higher percentage of buffs overhead will be bombing things like hangars and other field assets which would help thier country in the taking of fields instead of the opposite effect the milkrunners have now.

I've actually upped fighters with bombs and hit the town centers ahead of the milkrunners to which I receive whines on PM.

Offline Delirium

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7276
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2012, 09:59:38 AM »
If you make the town centers worthless as far as points, a far higher percentage of buffs overhead will be bombing things like hangars and other field assets which would help thier country in the taking of fields instead of the opposite effect the milkrunners have now.

I'd rather have them milkrun towns... bombers like the B17 and Lancaster were designed to strike larger areas and not pinpoint hangers at an airfield as if they were using JDAMs.

Not everything in Aces High is about winning the war.
Delirium
80th "Headhunters"
Retired AH Trainer (but still teach the P38 selectively)

I found an air leak in my inflatable sheep and plugged the hole! Honest!

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6996
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2012, 12:52:35 PM »
True.......some fly specifically to pad score.

Offline Eric19

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 591
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2012, 05:17:59 PM »
von the B29 does not bomb on target above 20k this is the only plane I know of to have this type of...............can't think of the word but where you put your crosshairs when you drop even if your zeroed out on climb rate on your e6b and calibrated right on the money the bombs WILL not land where you put your cross hairs at
Proud member of the 91ST BG (H) The Ragged Irregulars

Offline Tilt

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7358
      • FullTilt
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2012, 05:59:39 PM »
von the B29 does not bomb on target above 20k this is the only plane I know of to have this type of...............can't think of the word but where you put your crosshairs when you drop even if your zeroed out on climb rate on your e6b and calibrated right on the money the bombs WILL not land where you put your cross hairs at

The error is known and constant. Whilst the AH b29 bomb aimer may have to add a delay count on the release I can assure you that from 35k I/he can drop ord into any pickle barrel you care to name.

The score mungering milk runners ac of choice is the single b29 with full 2000lb load out running repeated missions to town centres at 30 to 35k.
Ludere Vincere

Offline Eric19

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 591
Re: wind layer at 30k
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2012, 06:20:08 PM »
500s work better wether in a single or formation I know cause I only fly a single and can drop a medium base FH hangars from 30k with a single 29 and 40 500s
Proud member of the 91ST BG (H) The Ragged Irregulars