Gun control laws do they work ?

[TonyJoey]

There is nothing wrong with that chart. Unemployment figures deal in tenth of percentage points. If you tried a bigger range, no one could tell there was any chance in the graph.

Please note the erroneous position of the last point on the graph.

[Ardy123]

Or maybe criminals will find ways to get said items, and when the general population is unable to get them for themselves, they are less secure and more vulnerable to an attack.

Right, that's why they are robbing banks with howitzers  

Most guns criminals use were legally obtained by someone.... more often than not by someone they know who gave it to them or purchased it for them....

[Ardy123]

I could give you a treasure chest of MSNBC clips filled with presenters and guests who hate-monger and spew vile and nasty things on air.

I bet you could, MSNBC its the fox equivalent on the left... You won't find me championing them either.

[DaveJ]

Please note the erroneous position of the last point on the graph.

Fair enough, didn't notice that- but the point still remains...

[DaveJ]

I bet you could, MSNBC its the fox equivalent on the left... You won't find me championing them either.

No, MSNBC is an absolute joke. They have zero ratings. They never bring any conservatives on their shows. The ones they claim to bring on are not conservatives, but big government, liberal Republicans. Fox at least does bring on liberals every now and then to stir the pot. MSNBC's presenters are radical leftists who constantly fill the air with inflammatory and divisive language that often goes overlooked. If Fox News said some of the things they did, the entire US media would crucify them in an instant.

[coombz]

Fair enough, didn't notice that- but the point still remains...

Yes, the point remains that Fox News is targeted primarily at idiots who will believe anything they see and hear, as long as it fits in with their preconceived ideas and prejudices.

You could probably do a poll and 90% of viewers would say they believe the current president is a Muslim ;]  

[Ardy123]

No, MSNBC is an absolute joke. They have zero ratings. They never bring any conservative their shows. The ones they claim to bring on are not conservatives, but big government, liberal Republicans. Fox at least does bring on liberals every now and then to stir the pot. MSNBC's presenters are radical leftists who constantly fill the air with inflammatory and divisive language that often goes overlooked. If Fox News said some of the things they did, the entire US media would crucify them in an instant.

  So basically, right wing biased cr*p  'news' is better than left wing biased cr*p 'news'?  

EDIT: to put *s in cr*p

If it looks like cr*p and it smells like cr*p... its.....cr*p!

[DaveJ]

Yes, the point remains that Fox News is targeted primarily at idiots who will believe anything they see and hear, as long as it fits in with their preconceived ideas and prejudices.

You could probably do a poll and 90% of viewers would say they believe the current president is a Muslim ;]  

All I need to know about you is that you go to Media Matters for your sources. Liberals like you are a dime a dozen. I would welcome a political philosophy discussion with you any day.

[W7LPNRICK]

my fav fox news gaffe...
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Ouch! I didn't know they moved Egypt... someone at fox was getting canned & figured to screw them on the way out...lol 

[sunfan1121]

Or maybe when an item is highly regulated, and the law is vigorously enforced, it generally reduces total supply. The less available an item is, less likely it will be used...

How's that working out for the war on drugs?

[Widewing]

Ah the classic partisan deflection/topic change by pointing at the other side

 

Pot meet Kettle....

[Widewing]

Or maybe when an item is highly regulated, and the law is vigorously enforced, it generally reduces total supply. The less available an item is, less likely it will be used...

Prohibition... The War on Drugs...

Yeah, that all worked... The supply will always meet the demand, with only the cost being impacted.

[coombz]

All I need to know about you is that you go to Media Matters for your sources. Liberals like you are a dime a dozen. I would welcome a political philosophy discussion with you any day.

lol i had never even heard of media matters until two people whined about it in this thread

as i said in my previous post, i just Google'd for the dodgy Fox News graph that i remembered seeing on another forum, and posted the first correct result from the image search

[Ardy123]

Prohibition... The War on Drugs...

Yeah, that all worked... The supply will always meet the demand, with only the cost being impacted.

2 things...
1) Bad examples, as most people didn't agree and engaged/engage in civil disobedience, even law enforcement regularly broke the rules (esp with prohibition). If you look at my initial post, I never said all guns should be illegal, just that there should be rules, esp around full auto ones (which  are highly regulated today).

2) Yes, econ 101, supply always meets demand, rise the price high enough and its not a viable option for most criminals.

[sunfan1121]

lol i had never even heard of media matters until two people whined about it in this thread

as i said in my previous post, i just Google'd for the dodgy Fox News graph that i remembered seeing on another forum, and posted the first correct result from the image search

You should use google to educate yourself on the Mexico/Arizona border.