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Offline Karnak

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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2012, 12:52:51 PM »
AH isn't just about the LW MA. We need a few less able bombers to add some balance to early war scenarios. Currently many early war fighters struggle to even catch let alone bring down fast bombers like the Ju 88A-4 and A-20.
Ju88A-4 fast?  Well, its about 10mph faster than the He111, but it still can't break 270mph in level flight.

Personally I don't see the He111 making much difference beyond immersion in a BoB scenario.
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2012, 02:33:04 PM »
The AH stats page shows a top speed for the Ju 88A-4 of around 290mph at 17,000 ft. Remember our 1941 A-4 has about 400 hp more than a BoB A-1 or A-5. It also has better guns and more armour than a BoB Ju 88.

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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2012, 09:30:34 PM »
How in gods name can it have MORE guns than a BoB Ju-88? Its nearly unarmed as it is! Luftwaffe pilots who upped in those crates must have had a lot of balls.
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2012, 03:50:26 PM »
<<<got a JU88a4 up tp 298 in level flight at 18k or so unloaded and on about 20mins of fuel
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2012, 04:50:57 PM »
How in gods name can it have MORE guns than a BoB Ju-88? Its nearly unarmed as it is! Luftwaffe pilots who upped in those crates must have had a lot of balls.

Early Ju 88A-1s had only a single upper rear MG 15. Later ones had two but with a slimmer canopy that restricted their field of fire compared to the later A-4. Most A-1s also had only a single lower MG 15 while our A-4 has a twin MG 81Z. The gunner's positions were a lot more vulnerable on early Ju 88s as well, late A-1s and all A-4s carried a lot more armour there. AH's Ju 88A-4 is a significantly more capable bomber than anything the LW had before mid 1941. It was the BoB that brought home to the LW how vulnerable their bombers really were to fighters.
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2012, 06:20:30 PM »
The HE-111 had a Nose gunner, Waist gunners, belly gunner and a top gunner. The 88 has a Nose gunner, Top gunner and belly gunner.
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2012, 06:38:09 PM »
Also keep in mind, the 111's guns had only a small angle of fire. Not sure if that plane could shoot straigh back.

If anyone has some information about this, i woul appreciate it. In that case if you dont want to hijack the thread, just send me pm with the links. ty!
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2012, 08:20:25 PM »
Ju88A-4 fast?  Well, its about 10mph faster than the He111, but it still can't break 270mph in level flight.

Personally I don't see the He111 making much difference beyond immersion in a BoB scenario.

Oh, I think it will see more use in the MA's than many give it credit for.  I dont think it will get used any less than the Boston, B25, or even the Ju88 depending on which configuration HTC adds in to AH.
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Re: What happened to new aircraft
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2012, 08:21:29 PM »
If we get something like an H11, it might actually be pretty decent.
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