P-40N 13FG Ben Preston

[Guppy35]

The US units in Italy had Merlin P40s for the most part and were transitioning to Jugs in late 43 and early 44.  Not even sure anyone was based in Italy in 43. 

Most of the bomber groups ended up with a P40 'hack' and some of those paint jobs were out of the ordinary, but they weren't combat birds.

My first thought was it's based on one of those.  These are from my 454th BG research way back when.  They had at least two Merlin 40 with one stripped of paint and given a unique paint job.






Well not very clear, you can see the white lower tail and diamond that went on the 454ths B24 rudders.


I know I'm sounding like the voice of 'no' on things here, but I'd be real skeptical about that one.

[Guppy35]

I think if you are looking for combat NMF P40s, you'll probably be limited to those very end of their use birds from the 49th FG similar to what FTJR is doing.  This one is also from the 49th.  The profile is taken from the 49th FG history.



The picture it's based on from the same book.  P40N-5  Serial # 42-106363. Lt. Marion Felt, 8th FS, 49th FG.

[Guppy35]

You could go RAAF as well.  They didn't have many NMF 40s but they had a few.  Somewhere I have a book with more background on this bird.  The white theater markings suggests it was in the combat zone.  When I find it, I'll post the info that the book has.

[Krusty]

The only issue I have with doing the 49th skin is that FTJR "just" put one out that's nearly identical. So I am inclined to look to foreign service.

I did see the RAAF one and it was a backup choice. There's also an RNZAF one that has the OD extend back onto the canopy, which looks somewhat interesting. Otherwise they are a little less colorful than my first 2 choices, but it can't be helped.

[Guppy35]

The only issue I have with doing the 49th skin is that FTJR "just" put one out that's nearly identical. So I am inclined to look to foreign service.

I did see the RAAF one and it was a backup choice. There's also an RNZAF one that has the OD extend back onto the canopy, which looks somewhat interesting. Otherwise they are a little less colorful than my first 2 choices, but it can't be helped.

Different squadron of the 49th for what it's worth

The New Zealand bird looks to be an E.

[Krusty]

Shazbot! And LOL I didn't pick up on that.

Well that leaves RAAF... which frankly isn't too far off from the 49th one in markings. At least it will give players some variety until other P-40s are added.

Excellent! Now I have a set of markings I don't have to worry about!

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84 sqn RAAF ingame already....just a heads up.

[Krusty]

Oh, son offa......

This really is a comedy of errors, isn't it?

What about 78 Sqn I posted above? It has no white on the tail. Anybody know if that was a combat unit? The field definitely resembles wartime conditions.

[Devil 505]

Oh, son offa......

This really is a comedy of errors, isn't it?

You should try one in North African colors. Oh, wait a second.... 

Seriously though, we need some Soviet P-40s. 

[Krusty]

You should try one in North African colors. Oh, wait a second.... 

Seriously though, we need some Soviet P-40s. 

I do have designs on other skins, but the point was to practice BMF techniques and spec/bump mapping in regards to BMF effects.

[lyric1]

Here you go page 38.
RAAF 82 squadron A29-625.

Most likely white painted rudder a few of these were painted like this.  I have pictures of others that look the same. 

Just like the 78 squadron picture you already posted.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/39623472/Aircam-Aviation-Curtis-Kittyhawk-Mk-I-IV-in-RAF-SAAF-RAAF-RNZAF-RCAF-NEIF-Foreign-Service

I have another one with nose art but it was one I was working on with FTJR along time ago that I just found the last part of the puzzle about it.

If he passes I will pop it in here later.

[lyric1]

The only issue I have with doing the 49th skin is that FTJR "just" put one out that's nearly identical. So I am inclined to look to foreign service.

I did see the RAAF one and it was a backup choice. There's also an RNZAF one that has the OD extend back onto the canopy, which looks somewhat interesting. Otherwise they are a little less colorful than my first 2 choices, but it can't be helped.

NZ Plane is post war.

[lyric1]

You could go RAAF as well.  They didn't have many NMF 40s but they had a few.  Somewhere I have a book with more background on this bird.  The white theater markings suggests it was in the combat zone.  When I find it, I'll post the info that the book has.

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Looks like an Australian based bird.

http://www.adf-serials.com/2a29-N1.shtml

[Krusty]

Looks like an Australian based bird.

http://www.adf-serials.com/2a29-N1.shtml

I saw this post and thought "well, duh, the markings say it's australian" but on second thought... What do you mean? Do you mean it wasn't a combat plane? Or was that just a note of interest?

Just curious. I'll be focusing on the 78 Sqn RAAF skin I posted further up.

[lyric1]

I saw this post and thought "well, duh, the markings say it's australian" but on second thought... What do you mean? Do you mean it wasn't a combat plane? Or was that just a note of interest?

Just curious. I'll be focusing on the 78 Sqn RAAF skin I posted further up.

Non combat based off of the link & where it says it was located all in states where it would not have shot at the enemy.