Whats the verdict on the APU/CPU chipsets?

[guncrasher]

so if build a intel I3 system its not upgradeable, hummm thanks i'll keep that in mind.

try building an i3 for less than 500 with a monitor and win7.


semp

[cattb]

why? I have a monitor and win 7 ultimate 64 bit, win 7 pro 64 bit and 32 bit and xp 32 bit.

That comment was in regards to building something upgradeable and not about price.
Have a good day.

[guncrasher]

why? I have a monitor and win 7 ultimate, win 7 pro 64 bit and 32 bit and xp 32 bit.

That comment was in regards to building something upgradeable and not about price.

because I was replying to reschke who wants a low end system that won't be used for gaming.   In his case a 500 or less puter from best buy makes sense.   heck if all you gonna do is email and some light browsing then a tablet would be better and cheaper.   mine cost 250. which I'm using right now.



semp

[cattb]

because I was replying to reschke who wants a low end system that won't be used for gaming.   In his case a 500 or less puter from best buy makes sense.   heck if all you gonna do is email and some light browsing then a tablet would be better and cheaper.   mine cost 250. which I'm using right now.



semp

Heck if thats all a person is going to do. I agree with you and a tablet would fit all the needs.

[Tac]

Given the fact that this chipset is the same price as a quad core AMD black edition @3.2ghz and the motherboards for each of them are about the same price range....and im building the system with 8gb as a starting point...

... and that my friend can, in the future, if he gets the APU chipset, merely buy a good video card and plug it into this system if he wishes to...


I guess my question was more of : Is the APU/CPU chipset comparable to the AMD black edition ? Im thinking my friend could save himself 200~300 bucks now and use the built in vid card to play his few games until maybe a couple of years from now when he would need to upgrade the vid card anyway.

But I don't know nor can I find any literature on the actual performance of the built in vid card in the APU/CPU set. As a rule I hate integrated stuff but this system does seem to get good reviews.

Its unknown territory for me and if it was a system for myself I'd get it but this is for a friend and I don't want to give him a lemon.

[cattb]

Tac there is many reviews

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2047/1/

goto google type in llano reviews   or trinity apu review   trinity a10 review   trinity benchmark   

some of the reviews compare against Intel built in graphics. I will tell you now the APU will beat the Intel built in graphics. The Intel CPU will eat up the AMD CPU in processing power.

[gyrene81]

Given the fact that this chipset is the same price as a quad core AMD black edition @3.2ghz and the motherboards for each of them are about the same price range....and im building the system with 8gb as a starting point...

... and that my friend can, in the future, if he gets the APU chipset, merely buy a good video card and plug it into this system if he wishes to...


I guess my question was more of : Is the APU/CPU chipset comparable to the AMD black edition ? Im thinking my friend could save himself 200~300 bucks now and use the built in vid card to play his few games until maybe a couple of years from now when he would need to upgrade the vid card anyway.

But I don't know nor can I find any literature on the actual performance of the built in vid card in the APU/CPU set. As a rule I hate integrated stuff but this system does seem to get good reviews.

Its unknown territory for me and if it was a system for myself I'd get it but this is for a friend and I don't want to give him a lemon.

if it's for gaming, like with aces high, it would be a waste of money. the apu chips were designed for basic home and business use in laptops and low end pc's. for basic computer performance, the a6 and a8 apu chips are equal to the black edition phenoms, but for the processes used in gaming even the bulldozer fx chips are better. the onboard graphics chips don't perform as well as their intel counterparts and you cannot disable them. the onboard chips were designed to allow a person to run a dedicated video card in a hybrid crossfire configuration and you have to be careful what you pair it up with.

[cattb]

if it's for gaming, like with aces high, it would be a waste of money. the apu chips were designed for basic home and business use in laptops and low end pc's. for basic computer performance, the a6 and a8 apu chips are equal to the black edition phenoms, but for the processes used in gaming even the bulldozer fx chips are better. the onboard graphics chips don't perform as well as their intel counterparts and you cannot disable them. the onboard chips were designed to allow a person to run a dedicated video card in a hybrid crossfire configuration and you have to be careful what you pair it up with.

From my reading of different reviews of the AMD CPU. The AMD is better then Intel built in GPU. The processor is not as as fast as Intel. In some cases depending what software and processing, not even close.