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Offline Melvin

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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 09:11:27 AM »
Coombz just likes to yank yer chain.

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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 11:10:24 AM »
All other boats in the navy, except aircraft carriers, are as obsolete as bayonets and horses.  I'm surprised you didn't know that.


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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 12:27:58 PM »
And Seapersons, not Seamen!
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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 12:36:06 PM »
.....and midshippersons?



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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 12:52:16 PM »
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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 02:35:14 PM »
Coombz, I'm trying to find a straight line through two of your posts. On this thread you post what seems to be jab at America spending so much on a military presence, obviously in other countries. Is it safe to say we are a bit heavy on this?

On another thread there is a video of an American citizen being stopped at a checkpoint in Texas, well beyond the international border. You make a few comments in jest about Americans being worried about a police state.

If I were to draw a simple conclussion you don't like America doing the heavy thing in other countries but you do like America doing the heavy thing in our own country? Is that how you would see it? Help me out here...

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My comments in the other thread are more about Americans NOT being worried about a police state :) The whole slippery slope of letting the govt + military breach the rights of citizens for what is on the surface a good cause (stemming the flow of illegal immigrants) is kind of interesting.

The reason I find it interesting (and worthy of jesting about in the other thread) is that generally folks in the US are very protective and outspoken when it comes to their rights as citizens, and how they cannot have them abused by a tyrannical government because the populace is mostly armed.

Not suggesting that this particular case of dodgy checkpoints is in itself worthy of an armed rebellion, but it's something to think about and discuss. I find it interesting how a lot of people automatically assume it's OK because it's guys in uniform doing it, and therefore everyone should 'respect their authoritah'

Perhaps in some people's minds it is OK for the govt to have the power to abuse people's rights, as long as they are doing it in the cause of getting rid of something  that they themselves don't like (illegal immigrants in this case). I'll let you draw the parallel to another country/historical situation yourself :old:  


Now, in THIS thread my jab wasn't really at America spending so much on their military. That's not really any concern of mine (and if I WAS going to have a jab, it'd be at America giving so much funding to Israel  :furious ).

My comment in this thread was poking fun at Bodhi. You can see that he is annoyed by a recent and much-reported event in which (naming no names) someone he dislikes strongly made fun of someone he likes. His post indicates that he feels it's juvenile and immature to take the piss out of someone and put them down, in the way that this person that he doesn't like did.

I was trying to point out the irony and obvious partisan bias of him being mad at the guy who made the mocking comment. Surely the guy who was trying to make the ridiculous assertion that America is somehow lacking in military might (and that it's the other guy's fault) set himself up to be made fun of by saying such a stupid thing?

Instead of being upset and annoyed that his guy made such a gaffe, which has since been widely publicized in world media, he is going down the route of 'THE OTHER GUY WAS IMMATURE TO MAKE FUN OF HIM'.  

In fact, the other guy probably couldn't resist after being given such an easy target, which is the same way I feel a lot of the time when posting on these forums :D

:aok So really, I guess what I'm trying to say is, you kind of misinterpreted my comments in both threads, but there really isn't much of a 'straight line', as you put it, between them, unless the link is me being thoughtful, objective, and generally a swell guy  :angel:
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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 02:51:54 PM »
You seem pretty useless.

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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2012, 03:03:47 PM »
coming from someone who I have already outed as a compulsive liar, that really means a lot :aok thanks icepac

even more comically, you repeatedly posted ordering me to post proof of my assertion that you are a liar, and then when I did post proof, your response was along the lines of 'those are all old threads you just searched out'   :huh


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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2012, 05:19:17 PM »



Now, in THIS thread my jab wasn't really at America spending so much on their military. That's not really any concern of mine (and if I WAS going to have a jab, it'd be at America giving so much funding to Israel  :furious ).

Well, as I see it, better Israel than the Muslim Brotherhood. Kind of the difference between Night and Day.  :D



I was trying to point out the irony and obvious partisan bias of him being mad at the guy who made the mocking comment. Surely the guy who was trying to make the ridiculous assertion that America is somehow lacking in military might (and that it's the other guy's fault) set himself up to be made fun of by saying such a stupid thing?


Point of fact, America's Military might is slipping significantly, if for no other reason than a indifferent or inept Commander and Chief. :mad:
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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2012, 05:41:26 PM »
Point of fact, America's Military might is slipping significantly, if for no other reason than a indifferent or inept Commander and Chief. :mad:

If it's a point of fact, I imagine you've got some actual facts to back up this statement? ;)  

Didn't that inept Commander in Chief take a large risk that paid off big time in approving the mission to scratch Bin Laden?  We all know if that'd happened under Bush or another Repub it'd be lauded as the greatest military victory of the century, and credited almost entirely to the president

Btw I should warn you, if you reference that Ambassador being killed as evidence of the president causing America's military might to decrease then I am going to laugh at you.
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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2012, 06:11:49 PM »

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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2012, 06:20:53 PM »
US Military spending is, 711 BILLION USD$

Even with Obama's "Inept" Leadership, the United States spends  550-BN$ MORE, than the next highest nation, China.

The US Government spends 2,141$ PER PERSON, on Military spending, the only nation HIGHER, than that, is the United Arab Emirates, and that is SEVEN, ultra rich countries combined together with a HIGH TECH, but SMALL, military.


So.

The US. Has the most expensive and the largest, modern military in the world (Notice MODERN, not talking Nations like Egypt and China who have National Service and under-equipped military's). Take the UAE and its 65,000 men out of the equation and the USA spends more per CAPITA than any other military on Earth.

And to top it off, the only nation that uses more of its gross domestic product for military purposes is Saudi Arabia... and have a wild guess who they buy their equipment from....

They use 8.7%, the USA, spends 5% of every dollar in its economy, on the military.

the US currently spends 4.7% of its GDP on Education.... 55th in the World.

^^

This... is WITH, Obama's inept leadership... HE HAS CUT, defense spending... and it is STILL 711 Billion USD$.... factor in unofficial defense spending on RnD and different unofficial contractors and subbranches.

US Defense spending is over 1 TRILLION USD$.... Roughly around the National Deficit, not to mention all your GDP and Employment is in the service sector... overseas. Your industry and agriculture is dwarfed by China and other large nations. The only two industries where the US truly makes a total profit is...

3 guesses everyone.

Aviation.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Weapons.... as well as having a nuclear arsenal capable of destroying the planet 6 times, with 5,113 active nuclear warheads available for deployment.


^^^ This is still under Barack Obama btw. And indeed his 2012 budget plan calls for modernisation and hence EXPANSION of the USA's Nuclear Deterrent.
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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2012, 06:26:21 PM »
That's not really any concern of mine (and if I WAS going to have a jab, it'd be at America giving so much funding to Israel  :furious ).

I hope we double the funding.  :aok

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Re: Aircraft Carriers
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2012, 06:29:35 PM »
I think the US instead of building this massive arsenal of firepower to sit on, should use it effectively.

Or even better, centralize all aspects of the military and create jobs.

And spend some of the money earned on Education and Healthcare.
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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2012, 06:30:33 PM »
 :salute those are some impressive figures P man,  the amounts of money involved are just staggering

I don't think you will be popular for bringing actual facts into a political discussion though: D  
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