Point suggestion

[CAP1]

   Id rather see KS on. If its on for a reason in the MA, the FSO is no different. No matter what penalty shot of self damage will make people think before pulling the trigger.

 the FSO is VERY different.

[ELD66]

the FSO is VERY different.

Completely agree. FSO is in a breed of its own.

[FiLtH]

 Ya I think I know what FSO is thanks. Thing is people, good people, longtime friends still screw up and pop a friendly. That "talk" is to do what.. threaten an old friend that he cant participate?  Ya ok.

    I took hits last night from someone outside the squad. Luckily they werent fatal. I dont want to spend my time coming here and have it wasted by someone else. If I Fup fine, but its me, not some over eager stranger, or a good bud that did it.

   How you think that having KS on would ruin the event is beyond me.

[Bino]

How is the accidental killing of a Friendlly scored now???? Is there a zero balance?? Are kill points awarded to the person who shot down his teammate??? Or are the points given to the opposition???
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When I see a "friendly fire" death in the logs, I score it as an all-around zero: zero points to the friendly who did the shooting, and zero points to the enemy team (which didn't earn that kill).

[cohofly]

Thanks for the explaination Bino, good to know.
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[SlipKnt]

When I see a "friendly fire" death in the logs, I score it as an all-around zero: zero points to the friendly who did the shooting, and zero points to the enemy team (which didn't earn that kill).

 

[surfinn]

When I see a "friendly fire" death in the logs, I score it as an all-around zero: zero points to the friendly who did the shooting, and zero points to the enemy team (which didn't earn that kill).

Ya that's not acceptable. Each aircraft is worth a certain point value. If ya got 5 on your 6 and two shoot down their own ac trying to shot you down then ya, you earned the points. If ya launch with 100 ac 50 were shot down then that should be at the very least 50 air craft scored for the opposite team. Double at the very least to the opposing team if a aircraft is lost to friendly fire.

[MachNix]

The value of the aircraft has two sides: what it is worth and what it earns.  The value the aircraft is worth is the points the bad guys get if they shoot it down. (Hopefully the friendly is not awarded these points.)  Any aircraft that is lost for any reason -- this includes discos -- stops earning points such as the end of frame landing bonus if one is used.  You do not have to give the bad guys points to penalize the other side for the friendly shoot down; the future points the lost aircraft might have earned, or prevented, is the penalty.

[surfinn]

I disagree. I've had several incidents where Ive gotten assist on enemy ac only to look at the logs and find out the a friendly of his own team got credit for the kill after i made him go poof.  To score that as a zero is gamy to the extream. The only fix to this is double points awarded to the opposite team. Otherwise I can see guys deep in territory saying I'm not gonna RTB shoot me down so there is no point deduction.

[Stampf]

Watch your back.

[CAP1]

I disagree. I've had several incidents where Ive gotten assist on enemy ac only to look at the logs and find out the a friendly of his own team got credit for the kill after i made him go poof.  To score that as a zero is gamy to the extream. The only fix to this is double points awarded to the opposite team. Otherwise I can see guys deep in territory saying I'm not gonna RTB shoot me down so there is no point deduction.

 Any chance you've got film or screenshots of this?

 i ask only because i've not seen what you're describing before. also i might change how i score them on my sets. as it is now, i score them the same way bino does.

[surfinn]

Its in the logs cap.  Its rare but it happens. But i got to ask why would ya have x amount of points lift off and some aren't scored? You lift 100 fighters off they should all be scored for either the enemy or as a safe landing bonus. This whole ya didn't earn it thing is bull. If you made a guy shot down one of the other 5 on your 6 then the allies earned the price of that ac.

But no I dont have a sceen shot of it cap. But it is in the logs with helped so and so shot down NAME. You look it up and you helped a enemy shot his own guy down. I have to assume that its like the MA where a ac can suffer x ammount of damage from a attacker, he looked whole to you when ya shot him down, yet you get the assist.

[kilo2]

Its in the logs cap.  Its rare but it happens. But i got to ask why would ya have x amount of points lift off and some aren't scored? You lift 100 fighters off they should all be scored for either the enemy or as a safe landing bonus. This whole ya didn't earn it thing is bull. If you made a guy shot down one of the other 5 on your 6 then the allies earned the price of that ac.

Hwhat? 

[surfinn]

As a member of one of the notorious gangers in the game sukov  I can see why you would be intimidated by this idea. 

[cohofly]

Here is why this needs to be changed in my oppinion. I have thought about this for a few days and I think there should be a penalty awarded to the opposition, and one that is worth more then the value of the plane. Right now it is scored as Zero, what's being overlooked is that the player who was shot down by his team mate may get shot down by the enemy later if he hadnt been mistakenly killed by his own side. Therefore actually potentially penalizing the opposition of his plane value. If I up my squad of 5 and shoot down 4 of them, those are points taken away from the total. Opposition gets none, we lose none. However................... later in the frame those who were shot down by me may have been killed by the enemy. Potential points taken away=oppostion penalized. I think points of the plane flown + half of the value of that plane would be a fair penalty. My other point in this argument is if there is no penalty and its scored as nil what's the point of having killshooter off. Keep it on and only penalize the shooter.