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Offline WWhiskey

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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 11:50:41 PM »
Yes. HE or AP ,,,if it hits a plane the plane blows up,,  the HE I carry is for jeeps ,M-3's ,M-18's, ect,ect
Used to be I would shoot the ground close to an airplane to blow it up,, but I don't think that works as well as it used to unless the plane is on the ground as well,, not sure if that was an update change tho.
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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2012, 06:31:19 PM »
Actually I need to sort of edit the statement I made about AP being as effective as HE against aircraft.

When the aircraft is on the ground HE is far more potent, being able to destroy an enemy plane with a near miss.  AP often might blow off a tail or a wing even with a direct hit but still allow a pilot to end his sortie.

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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2012, 11:01:56 PM »
Tonight I was guarding the map room of the town of a base. My fellow two tankers that were originally with me got killed by bombing. I was in a Panzer H. A T34 rolled in ... a brown one which I assume is a 84-85.  I hit it three times. Three freaking times! At close range! Longest range was maybe 60. After the third hit, he turned and killed me with one shot. I watched the film very carefully because I wanted to know how the **** that could happen. First two hits were on the frontal armor. Ok, so the T34 has very good frontal armor. The last hit was on the side. It hit right in the middle of the side between the turret and the hull. There was no sign of a ricochet. It was as if the T34 swallowed the Ap round. Gee, do you think I was a little frustrated?? I have a screen capture of the shot if someone wants to see it. Unfortunately Photobucket changed their format using Javascript so I can't post it here.
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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2012, 08:25:56 AM »
Tonight I was guarding the map room of the town of a base. My fellow two tankers that were originally with me got killed by bombing. I was in a Panzer H. A T34 rolled in ... a brown one which I assume is a 84-85.  I hit it three times. Three freaking times! At close range! Longest range was maybe 60. After the third hit, he turned and killed me with one shot. I watched the film very carefully because I wanted to know how the **** that could happen. First two hits were on the frontal armor. Ok, so the T34 has very good frontal armor. The last hit was on the side. It hit right in the middle of the side between the turret and the hull. There was no sign of a ricochet. It was as if the T34 swallowed the Ap round. Gee, do you think I was a little frustrated?? I have a screen capture of the shot if someone wants to see it. Unfortunately Photobucket changed their format using Javascript so I can't post it here.
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I agree, those close shots with no effect make a person scream at the top of their lungs.  I've been lucky enough to come out about even in tank knife fights so I have no room to bicker.  I have been at 200-400 yards in multiple occasions firing dead in to T34's and Panthers and watched the rounds deflect.  That too is a bit frustrating but at least the explanation is legit, the angle of impact favored the enemy tank thanks to the sloped armor.   
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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 10:18:55 PM »
Well it happened to me again. Tonight I was in-town waiting for a T34 to come in since I had raced him in to town. I only got there first because I was well ahead of him at the start (was in my usual Panzer H). He knocked down a couple of houses and then came up the road. I was up on the main (flag) level but he was down at the level of the road just coming into town. I had stopped with engine off. I could see him from the commanders view but could not get the barrel of the main gun down on him. He crested the hill and I fired. I hit his track, see picture below. He rolled on in a few yards and then fired the usual one shot kill and I am dead. So the question is why did my shot through his track not "track" him, i.e. stop him immediately? This is REALLY, REALLY frustrating! See picture below:


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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2012, 10:48:10 PM »
Well it happened to me again. Tonight I was in-town waiting for a T34 to come in since I had raced him in to town. I only got there first because I was well ahead of him at the start (was in my usual Panzer H). He knocked down a couple of houses and then came up the road. I was up on the main (flag) level but he was down at the level of the road just coming into town. I had stopped with engine off. I could see him from the commanders view but could not get the barrel of the main gun down on him. He crested the hill and I fired. I hit his track, see picture below. He rolled on in a few yards and then fired the usual one shot kill and I am dead. So the question is why did my shot through his track not "track" him, i.e. stop him immediately? This is REALLY, REALLY frustrating! See picture below:

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I can understand the issue of the projectile not performing at close range vs armor, the extreme high velocity/kinetic energy may be a double edged sword when the target is "able to pee on" close.  However, when the round hits a part of the tank that is not exactly armored like the track I would like to believe that damage enough is going to occur to disable the tank.

If you have not sent the video to HTC, be sure and do so.   :aok
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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2012, 11:45:14 AM »
How do I send the video to HTC?
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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2012, 04:42:06 PM »
How do I send the video to HTC?
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Zip the file (7-zip.org is great) and probably email it to support@hitechcreations.com

Might want to just save like a 30 second snippet of the actual incident, you know how to do that?



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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2012, 05:25:31 PM »
No I don't. I assume you save it to an avi file? But that is an assumption since I have never done it.
Thanks for all the help!
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Re: Vehicle Sweet Spots
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2012, 08:29:33 PM »
Well it happened to me again. Tonight I was in-town waiting for a T34 to come in since I had raced him in to town. I only got there first because I was well ahead of him at the start (was in my usual Panzer H). He knocked down a couple of houses and then came up the road. I was up on the main (flag) level but he was down at the level of the road just coming into town. I had stopped with engine off. I could see him from the commanders view but could not get the barrel of the main gun down on him. He crested the hill and I fired. I hit his track, see picture below. He rolled on in a few yards and then fired the usual one shot kill and I am dead. So the question is why did my shot through his track not "track" him, i.e. stop him immediately? This is REALLY, REALLY frustrating! See picture below:

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The law of inertia perhaps?  :D

All kidding (not really) aside though, is it possible that you had such a huge amount of deflection that the round failed to destroy the tank tread?  Tank treads are made up of really big chunks of steel right?  I assume that although more fragile then a glacias plate, they are not exactly weak.