B-29 Gunners

[Hap]

I am sure the fighter "jocks" are going to howl over this suggestion: I think AH should allow a enough pilots to "join" a B-29, to man all the guns on the aircraft! What I see happening now, the "smart" fighter jocks are waiting until they know the 29 is on the bomb run and the pilot is in the bomb sight, then it is a easy kill. At the very least, allow 2 other pilots to join the 29's, pilot, bomberdear, and one gunner!

[Scotty55OEFVet]

I am sure the fighter "jocks" are going to howl over this suggestion: I think AH should allow a enough pilots to "join" a B-29, to man all the guns on the aircraft! What I see happening now, the "smart" fighter jocks are waiting until they know the 29 is on the bomb run and the pilot is in the bomb sight, then it is a easy kill. At the very least, allow 2 other pilots to join the 29's, pilot, bomberdear, and one gunner!

Surely you jest? Dude, the veteran Bomber pilots in AH know how to defend themselves. And i would have to say if you are getting hammered by enemy fighters when your about to make your bomb run and you still go into F6 and calibrate, then you certainly deserve to go down in a blaze of twisted metal. Kill Red Guys first! Then if ya have to make another run then take the time to realign yourself and then drop. Have to be smart about it. Or have your buddy gun for u while in your run. If he is any good you will be fine. If not, put an ad in the classifieds looking for a Gunner that can actually...well, gun!

[kvuo75]

its hard to think of anything i'd want less, than another person gunning for me in bombers..

riding along as someones gunner is right up there tho.. 

[shdo]

I remember the "Battle of Trafalgar" special event in WarBirds, with two fleets of BUFFs pounding away. One of the funniest things I ever saw online.

Oh I remember that!  Having different types of buffs being different types of ships and having to fly our "Ships of the Line" down the "Line".  Man that was a FUN fight.

shdo

[earl1937]

Surely you jest? Dude, the veteran Bomber pilots in AH know how to defend themselves. And i would have to say if you are getting hammered by enemy fighters when your about to make your bomb run and you still go into F6 and calibrate, then you certainly deserve to go down in a blaze of twisted metal. Kill Red Guys first! Then if ya have to make another run then take the time to realign yourself and then drop. Have to be smart about it. Or have your buddy gun for u while in your run. If he is any good you will be fine. If not, put an ad in the classifieds looking for a Gunner that can actually...well, gun!

Guys, you are missing the point of my post! Any Bomber, no matter what model, has an intergrated team, to get the job done! Hi Tech is asking one person to do all the three important functions in a bomber at once, bomb, gun and fly at the same time! Seems like doing it the way its done now in Aces High is defeating the purpose of a bomber, i.e. team work to get the job done. Oh well, haven't ever seen airports with out aircraft sitting around on ramps or in hangars either, so I guess we just keep on playing "Cartoon" games, instead of being "real" crew members in what ever aircraft you are flying!!

[Chalenge]

I dont see your red pill as being any more real than the blue pill you mention earl.

[kvuo75]

Guys, you are missing the point of my post! Any Bomber, no matter what model, has an intergrated team, to get the job done! Hi Tech is asking one person to do all the three important functions in a bomber at once, bomb, gun and fly at the same time!

no, you can have two.. one guy to fly and bomb, and one guy to gun.

the vast majority of people do not need or want any help..

[matt]

Maybe total crew of three..  Pilot and 2 guners...

[kvuo75]

seems to me, you guys who want gunners should concentrate on just getting one to ride along with you under the system as it is right now..

see how many people are willing to do it, before asking htc to change the whole system to allow more than one..

does anyone past their two week free trial even want to ride along as a gunner? I dont think adding more gunner spots would magically make people join them..

[earl1937]

seems to me, you guys who want gunners should concentrate on just getting one to ride along with you under the system as it is right now..

see how many people are willing to do it, before asking htc to change the whole system to allow more than one..

does anyone past their two week free trial even want to ride along as a gunner? I dont think adding more gunner spots would magically make people join them..

Guess I need to respond! All I am asking for, is a situation where squad mates can learn to work together as a combat team, not just be stick and rudder fighter pilots, you can do that in WW1 arena!

[kvuo75]

Guess I need to respond! All I am asking for, is a situation where squad mates can learn to work together as a combat team,

why not each of them up their own set of bombers , fly in formation, and work together as a combat team?

it is immensely more effective against intercepting fighters anyway.  6 guys riding along in the same bomber would be dead meat because there would be no automatic concentration of fire like there is now (fire all)

[MK-84]

seems to me, you guys who want gunners should concentrate on just getting one to ride along with you under the system as it is right now..

see how many people are willing to do it, before asking htc to change the whole system to allow more than one..

does anyone past their two week free trial even want to ride along as a gunner? I dont think adding more gunner spots would magically make people join them..

I can usually get a gunner...

...Its usually that $@%@$ person that likes to waste ammo when there is nothing to shoot at.  and since I can not tell when they get bored and leave my plane...Forget it. It seems like a great idea. It doesnt work in actuality.

The Deathstars (a fully crewed B17) in AW were a different matter. When you did fully crew one (never actually fully crewed, someone would disco, always) You had a team of people that didnt get bored because that was a hell of alot of fun.  Except it was not very successful at all.  AW also had the advantage of a different system of gameplay where a Deathstar was unexpected and thus more deadly.  In AH a Single bomber formation is quite possibly more dangerous with one gunner since he can bring all guns on target.  AW didnt allow for that.  Or formations.