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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 09:29:40 AM »
I worked for an autozone store before transferring to its distribution warehouse back when I was in college, under the employee guidelines it strictly says during a robbery do nothing, give up the register and run out.
There is no Insurance on employees unless the employee pays for it - problem is the legal problems that goes with having insurance/no insurance - say an employee decides to foil a robbery and gets shot, then they are on the hook for lawsuits and medical bills. Plus the employee also gets workers comp and everything else.

What is so hard to understand? RUN AWAY give up the register... Autozone stores have insurance for robberies, whatever gets stolen can be recovered.

my wife has worked in retail and she says they cant confront anyone about stealing, they just have to let them walk out the door.  pretty rediculous

Think about it for a minute - use surveillance cameras to I.D. the person and let the police handle it, or rather have an untrained person whose job is to "sell merchandise" to confront criminals?
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 09:30:57 AM »
This day in age  i cant say im surprised.
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »
I worked for an autozone store before transferring to its distribution warehouse back when I was in college, under the employee guidelines it strictly says during a robbery do nothing, give up the register and run out.
There is no Insurance on employees unless the employee pays for it - problem is the legal problems that goes with having insurance/no insurance - say an employee decides to foil a robbery and gets shot, then they are on the hook for lawsuits and medical bills. Plus the employee also gets workers comp and everything else.

What is so hard to understand? RUN AWAY give up the register... Autozone stores have insurance for robberies, whatever gets stolen can be recovered.

Think about it for a minute - use surveillance cameras to I.D. the person and let the police handle it, or rather have an untrained person whose job is to "sell merchandise" to confront criminals?

What people are not thinking about is that the young man ran from the store, grabbed his personal weapon from his vehicle and returned to protect his go-workers, one of whom thought that the young man probably saved his life.

Another point is that this shoe can fit both feet... People have been sued for NOT intervening in robberies where they could have prevented a death or injury.

Some have argued that the robber had robbed as many as 30 businesses and had not shot anyone. Stupid argument, at best. How could the victims know the robber's past behavior, and what promise is there that today, he won't panic and shoot someone?

The reality is that the employee feared for the lives of his co-workers and customers. Thus, he used the means at hand to protect them, and did so successfully without discharging his firearm. Inasmuch as he did not break the law, and used restraint, who, having not walked in his shoes that day, can criticize his actions?

If Autozone displayed some wisdom, they would have fired him to satisfy their poorly thought-out policy, and then rehired him immediately.

Here's a true example of corporate stupidity. A mid-size specialty defense company, a subsidiary of a larger corporation, had a zero tolerance policy for work place violence. You strike or fight with anyone on company property, and you're terminated. No exceptions. Their leading defense sales guy was assaulted in the office by a drunk janitor with a knife. He defended himself, wrestling the janitor to the floor and restraining him until the police arrived. The janitor was charged with felony assault with a deadly weapon. However, the company fired the salesman for fighting in the work place. No reasonable argument would deter the enforcement of policy, which did not even allow for self defense from a deadly attack. The salesman was hired by a competitor. Some important customers, having heard of the incident, took their business to the competitor, following the sales rep. The company, having lost considerable business, failed to make their numbers by almost 40%. Within 18 months, Corporate decided to close the subsidiary and move the balance of the work 600 miles to another subsidiary. 365 employees lost their jobs... The unfairly treated sales guy? He's now VP of Business Development for the competitor.

Stupid is as stupid does....


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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2012, 11:52:46 AM »
See Rule #14
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2012, 11:56:51 AM »
What people are not thinking about is that the young man ran from the store, grabbed his personal weapon from his vehicle and returned to protect his go-workers, one of whom thought that the young man probably saved his life.

Another point is that this shoe can fit both feet... People have been sued for NOT intervening in robberies where they could have prevented a death or injury.
Stupid is as stupid does....
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I know well enough, when I was the receiving/processing manager for Autozone, we had a yard-dog sleep in the Cab, at nights we only had one on duty while day-time we had two. He would sleep in the Cab, both myself and the nightshift manager didn't care, he worked there 9 years and always did his job which was move trailers around etc. Until one day a security guard seen him on camera napping in the cab, then woke him up. Then he reports the guy to the Warehouse manager who fired the guy. We got a letter from the boss to hire a new yard-mover and sure enough we called the guy back and hired him.

Warehouse manager didn't say anything with two night shift managers hiring the guy back, frankly we had nobody else with that kinda experience anyhow. The look on the security guards face was priceless when he walked back into the building to clock in, then go back to his cab to sleep.

Its a two way street really, Warehouse employee's are under the team leaders, team leaders under the managers - yard movers are frankly their own boss, just as the truck drivers are (unless they work for the company then its different).
In three years I never really seen anyone get "fired" out of place other then this, most were either drunk or stupid.
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2012, 03:14:11 PM »
It is kind of a biased sample I must admit.

My friends are all from Texas, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, Carolina, Virginia etc..
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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2012, 07:26:23 PM »
It is kind of a biased sample I must admit.

My friends are all from Texas, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, Carolina, Virginia etc..
Most people in those states don't have cc licenses. They're fairly uncommon.

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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2012, 07:30:22 PM »
Most people in those states don't have cc licenses. They're fairly uncommon.

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Re: Autozone fires Air Force vet after he foils robbery.
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2012, 07:42:44 PM »
:huh :huh :lol
http://legallyarmed.com/ccw_statistics.htm
Looks like the state with the most concealed carry permits is Florida, which has almost 1 million. In a state with over 19 million people this equates to about 5% of the population. I would say that makes it pretty uncommon.
I can think of two people that I know who have CC permits, and Pennsylvania has issued more CC permits than Texas.