WW II British M-7 tank distroyer with the 105 MM cannon

[Robinhood01]

something to compete with the Tiger II.

is it possible , Please ?

[Zacherof]

Anything is possible here 

[Rino]

     Never heard of it, have any pictures?  The only M-7 I ever heard of was the Priest self propelled gun.
The 105mm is a howitzer, not an anti-tank weapon.  Also it's US not UK.

[MiloMorai]

The Sexton would be the British AFV.

[SmokinLoon]

Something to compete with the King Tiger???  AH is not socialism, AH can't make things "equal".  Use your mind and you can defeat the King Tiger in many ways, young padawan.  Try the M18 up the tailpipe, the 1000 lb bird poop, or even the T34/76 HVAP within peein' distance of the King Tiger's flank.  In other words, do not think you need a Mike Tyson to defeat a Mike Tyson.  Besides, that would be boring. 

Aces High does not need any more of Germany's super weapons.  It does not need anything per say, but it would be better for game play and historical scenarios, imo, for HTC to look at about 31 different gv's before adding in about the only thing that could legitimately compete with a King Tiger: the Soviet IS-2, and even then it was at best within reach of the King Tiger, not an equal.  Sure, some knee jerkers will proclaim that the JS-2 was superior due to late war steel quality, veteran crews, support, etc, but those items are tertiary when comparing gun vs gun and armor vs armor.

StG III, Su-100, Valentine, Crusader, Puma, SdKfz 251/9, Staghound, M7 Priest, Panzer III, KV-1, M3 Stuart, Type 97 Chi-Ha, LVT-4/37mm, Char-B, etc, etc.  LOTS of other gv's to think about. 

[Arlo]

Banzai!



http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/jp_type97_tank/index.html

[Arlo]

Mama Mia!



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[Rino]

     Oy Veh!  Those are some stinky ameataballs...especially the M-13. 

[Robinhood01]

British tanks in the early years of the war, both infantry and cruiser, were (with the exception of the pre-war Matilda I design), equipped with a gun intended to and capable of use against enemy tanks - the 40 mm Ordnance QF 2 pounder. This was replaced with the 57 mm Ordnance QF 6 pounder when that became available. There was extra impetus given to the development of anti-tank weaponry, which culminated in the 76mm Ordnance QF 17 pounder, widely considered one of the best anti-tank guns of the war.[10]

Towed anti-tank guns were the domain of the Royal Artillery rather than the Royal Armoured Corps and vehicles adapted to mount artillery including anti-tank self-propelled guns such as the Deacon (6pdr on an armoured wheeled truck chassis) and Archer (17pdr on tracked chassis) were their preserve as were US-supplied vehicles.

 Archer. The gun faced to the rear
The self-propelled guns that were built in the "tank destroyer" mold came about through the desire to field the formidable QF 17 pounder anti-tank gun and simultaneous lack of suitable tanks to carry it. As a result they were of a somewhat extemporized nature. Mounting the gun on the Valentine tank chassis in a fixed superstructure gave the Archer. The 17 pounder was also used to re-equip the US-supplied M10 Tank Destroyer, replacing the American 3" gun to produce the 17pdr SP Achilles.While there was a general move to a general purpose gun that was usable against both tanks and in supporting infantry, there was a need to put the 17 pdr into a tank for use against the enemy's heavy tanks. The Cruiser Mk VIII Challenger was a project to bring a 17 pdr tank into use to support the Cromwell cruiser tank. Delays led to it being outnumbered in use by the Sherman Firefly but a derivative of Challenger was the more-or-less open-topped variant Avenger which was delayed until post war before entering service. A cut-down 17 pdr - the 77mmHV was used to equip the Comet tank in the last year of the war.

The closest the British came to developing an armored tank destroyer in the vein of the German Jagdpanzers or Soviet ISU series was the Churchill 3-inch (76 mm) Gun Carrier[citation needed] - a Churchill tank chassis with a boxy superstructure in place of the turret and mounting a 3-inch (76 mm) anti-aircraft gun. Although a number were ordered, they were not put into service. The design was rejected in favor of developing a 17 pounder armed Cromwell tank variant ultimately leading to the Comet tank. The heavy assault tank known as Tortoise intended for use in breaking through fixed defensive lines was well armoured and had a very powerful 32 pounder gun but did not reach service use.

By 1944, a number of the Shermans in British use were being converted to Sherman Fireflies by adding the QF 17 pounder gun. Initially this gave each platoon of Shermans one powerfully armed tank. By war's end - through the production of more Fireflies and the replacement of Shermans by British tanks - about 50% of Shermans in British service were Fireflies.

[Robinhood01]

On the whole, the British army did not subscribe to the Tank Destroyer concept, preferring instead to design tanks armed with bigger guns. Although flawed in many other respects, contemporary British armour doctrine recognized the inevitability of tank versus tank combat and the Army strove to arm their tanks with the most powerful anti-tank gun available at the time.

Anti-tank guns were the domain of the [[Royal Artillery]] rather than the [[Royal Armoured Corps]] and anti-tank gunned vehicles particularly anti-tank self-propelled guns such as the [[Deacon (artillery)|Deacon]] and [[Archer (tank destroyer)|Archer]] were their preserve.

 The self-propelled guns that were built in the "Tank Destroyer" mould came about through the desire to field the formidable [[QF 17 pounder]] anti-tank gun and simultaneous lack of suitable tanks to carry it. As a result they were of a somewhat extemporized nature. Mounting the gun on the [[Valentine tank]] chassis gave the Marder-like Archer. The 17 pounder was also used to equip the US supplied [[M10 Wolverine]] to produce the ''Achilles''. Another attempt to produce a specialist anti-tank vehicle was to fit the 17 pounder to the Cromwell chassis to give [[Cruiser Mk VIII Challenger|Tank, Cruiser, Challenger (A30)]] and its near open-topped variant ''Avenger''. The latter delayed until post war before entering service.

 The closest the British came to developing an armoured Tank Destroyer in the vein of the German Jagdpanzers or Russian ISU series was the Churchill 3 inch Gun Carrier - a [[Churchill tank]] chassis with a boxy superstructure in place of the turret. The design was rejected in favor of developing a 17 pounder armed Cromwell tank variant ultimately leading to the [[Comet tank]]

 By 1944, a number of the "basic" [[Sherman tank|Shermans]] in British use were being converted to [[Sherman Fireflies]] by adding the potent [[QF 17 pounder]] gun — giving each platoon of Shermans a dedicated anti-tank tank.

[Rino]

The Sexton would be the British AFV.

     Doesn't the Sexton mount the 25 Lber?  Which if I remember correctly is closer to 88mm than 105.

[SmokinLoon]

     Doesn't the Sexton mount the 25 Lber?  Which if I remember correctly is closer to 88mm than 105.

Indeed, it was in fact an 88mm cannon.  It was a "lighter" than comparative field artillery from other countries, however it had a greater range and could fire faster than other similar artillery guns. Some of that had to do with British doctrine.