Hurricane upgrade

[vafiii]

Love the new cockpit design! Very impressive! Keep up the good work HTC!

[Randy1]

I tried the D out.  Took two Lancasters down with one canon shot each using the pod mounted wing canons.

[Karnak]

I tried the D out.  Took two Lancasters down with one canon shot each using the pod mounted wing canons.

That's not really what the Hurricane Mk IId is for.  The 40mm cannons fire AP rounds for anti-tank work.

[SmokinLoon]

That's not really what the Hurricane Mk IId is for.  The 40mm cannons fire AP rounds for anti-tank work.

.. .and a damned fine tank buster it is.   

[Krusty]

Did they tie ENY to the guns package? The 4x20mm is gamebreaking in some situations (EWA top killer, for example) and needs a low ENY, whereas the .303 armed variant is WAY less lethal and overall not as effective, meaning it would be a higher ENY.

Put it this way, a IIc in the LWA should probably be around 15 ENY (?) but a IIA or IIB would be around 30-35 ENY.

[Karnak]

Did they tie ENY to the guns package? The 4x20mm is gamebreaking in some situations (EWA top killer, for example) and needs a low ENY, whereas the .303 armed variant is WAY less lethal and overall not as effective, meaning it would be a higher ENY.

Put it this way, a IIc in the LWA should probably be around 15 ENY (?) but a IIA or IIB would be around 30-35 ENY.

No, I don't think such a mechanism exists in AH at this time.  ENY currently has to be set assuming the best gun packages.

[Fish42]

Did they tie ENY to the guns package? The 4x20mm is gamebreaking in some situations (EWA top killer, for example) and needs a low ENY, whereas the .303 armed variant is WAY less lethal and overall not as effective, meaning it would be a higher ENY.

Put it this way, a IIc in the LWA should probably be around 15 ENY (?) but a IIA or IIB would be around 30-35 ENY.

It gets worse when you look at the sea hurri.

Hurri Mk1 = 40 eny
Sea Hurri with 8 303s = Mk1 in everyway except it has more weight. = 15  eny...

15 eny is the same as the Seafire and less them some of the F4Us!

[SmokinLoon]

It gets worse when you look at the sea hurri.

Hurri Mk1 = 40 eny
Sea Hurri with 8 303s = Mk1 in everyway except it has more weight. = 15  eny...

15 eny is the same as the Seafire and less them some of the F4Us!

The Sea Hurricane offers quad 20mm's, otherwise it is slow to respond.  The gutless engine (not to mention the fuel is gravity fed just like the Hurricane Mk I so it cuts out in negative G's), and the extra weight, the over all lack of response, and the lack of ordnance put it in the same level as the F4F in terms of air to air ability (minus the dive capability and roll ability).  Time will tell.
 

[Fish42]

The Sea Hurricane offers quad 20mm's, otherwise it is slow to respond.  The gutless engine (not to mention the fuel is gravity fed just like the Hurricane Mk I so it cuts out in negative G's), and t
he extra weight, the over all lack of response, and the lack of ordnance put it in the same level as the F4F in terms of air to air ability (minus the dive capability and roll ability).  Time will tell.
 

Yes its the cannons that make the seahurri better but a eny of 20-25 sounds better as the plane has a smallish ammo load and no ores. But when you fly the 8 gun bird it would be about 30-40 eny.

We have far better planes in this game with higher eny then the sea hurri.

[MOSQ]

I agree that the new Hurris throw a wrench in the ENY system. HTC needs to rethink the way ENY works when such differnt weapons packages are on the same plane.
One fix would be to make a Sea Hurr II with the better engine and only 4xCannons, then ENY almost the same as a Hurri2C.

[Sg11]

Love the new cockpit design! Very impressive! Keep up the good work HTC!

I agree. Nice!

[palef]

I agree that the new Hurris throw a wrench in the ENY system. HTC needs to rethink the way ENY works when such differnt weapons packages are on the same plane.
One fix would be to make a Sea Hurr II with the better engine and only 4xCannons, then ENY almost the same as a Hurri2C.

That's not a fix that's creating an aircraft that never existed.

In other news, Oh Mmmmy I love these aeroplanes but I don't think I've had such a long death streak in a while. I'll look out of the cockpit and marvel at the smooth cowling or glance at the instrument panel and stare at gauges while SFOX shoots me down.

[Karnak]

I actually find that the interior of the Hurricane is so well done that the exterior is jarring in how few polys the wings have and how low res the textures are.

[MOSQ]

That's not a fix that's creating an aircraft that never existed.

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hurricane_variants
Sea Hurricane Mk IIC
Hurricane Mk IIC version equipped with naval radio gear; 400 aircraft were converted and used on fleet carriers. The Merlin XX engine on the Sea Hurricane generated 1460 hp at 6,250 ft and 1435 hp at 11,000 ft. Top speed was 322 mph at 13,500ft and 342 mph at 22,000 ft.[18]

Citation [18]: ^ Brown, Eric, Wings of the Navy, p112

There's also this one which would be fine too:
Sea Hurricane Mk IC
Hurricane Mk I[14] version equipped with catapult spools, an arrester hook and the four-cannon wing. From February 1942, 400 aircraft were converted. The Sea Hurricane IC used during Operation Pedestal had their Merlin III engines modified to accept 16 lb boost, and could generate more than 1400 hp at low altitude.[15][16] Lt. R. J. Cork was credited with 6 kills while flying a Sea Hurricane IC during Operation Pedestal.[17]

Our new Sea Hurri only has 12lbs of boost.

Why do you say the Sea Hurri IIC never existed?

[palef]

Because it wound you up.