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Re: Engine location
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2013, 10:12:05 PM »
Yes also, but the original question was about increasing lift.  :old:



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Re: Engine location
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2013, 02:55:54 AM »
I think it's funny how some saw my much abbreviated appraisal of this design format as an opportunity to imply I am ignorant. I actually know all about the Coanda effect, I use Coanda aftershave to repel unwanted females  :old:
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 05:57:41 AM »
What? I hope you're not referring to me...  :old:
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 06:36:44 AM »
GScholz uses Rancid Polecat by Calvin Klein  :old:
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2013, 08:44:29 AM »
I most assuredly do not!  :furious
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 10:33:40 AM »
GScholz uses Rancid Polecat by Calvin Klein  :old:

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Re: Engine location
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2013, 02:28:54 PM »
Why put engines to wings when you can just strap them to your helmet?

And who needs wings anyway?

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Re: Engine location
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2013, 02:33:13 PM »
I most assuredly do not!  :furious

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Re: Engine location
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2013, 10:06:59 PM »
In theory would putting jet engines immediately aft of a wings slipstream help to increase lift or improve airflow to an engine?  Could a jet engine "suck" air across a wing?

I would imagine putting the engines aft of a wing would cause a lot of turbulent air to enter the engine. Probably not going to be very nice. Plus, if mounted to the back of the wing, the elastic axis of the wing would move back (assuming its a fairly straight wing) which wouldn't be too nice for flutter either.

But as other have shown, there are planes whose engines create lift over the wing. It's news for me too!   :cool:
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 10:48:38 AM »
But as other have shown, there are planes whose engines create lift over the wing. It's news for me too!   :cool:

Almost all prop planes create some lift from the slip stream of the prop.

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Re: Engine location
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2013, 11:53:23 AM »
I would imagine putting the engines aft of a wing would cause a lot of turbulent air to enter the engine. Probably not going to be very nice.

^this^

One of the sacrifices of pusher prop aircraft such as the long-ez and vari-ez. The prop is going to be much more efficient out front in clean air.
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2013, 02:25:21 AM »
^this^

One of the sacrifices of pusher prop aircraft such as the long-ez and vari-ez. The prop is going to be much more efficient out front in clean air.

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Re: Engine location
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2013, 10:36:07 AM »
Any reason they made the B-36 a pusher

To achieve better laminar airflow for the wings.
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2013, 11:51:52 AM »
Any reason they made the B-36 a pusher
:airplane: The propulsion system alone made the B-36 a very unusual aircraft. All B-36s featured six 28-cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-4360 'Wasp Major' radial engines. Even though the prototype R-4360s delivered a total of 18,000 hp (13 MW), early B-36s were slow and required long takeoff runs. The situation improved with later versions delivering 3,800 hp (2.8 MW) apiece. Each engine drove an immense three-bladed propeller, 19 ft (5.8 m) in diameter, mounted in the pusher configuration. This unusual configuration prevented propeller turbulence from interfering with airflow over the wing, but also led to chronic engine-overheating due to insufficient airflow around the engines, resulting in numerous in-flight engine fires.
Another consideration which I was told back in the 50's were the unusal long, (2), two bomb bays, which could carry a 76,000 bomb payload. Because of weight and balance consideration, it had a much longer center of gravity moment arm with the engines in the rear, as opposed to engines mounted on the front of the wing. The last B-36 built was the "J" model, of which only 33 were built before the B-36 production line was closed. The wing, at the fuseledge was 7.5 feet thick and crew members could, if neccessary, actually do some light repairs while in flight, although, I was told, this was never a common practice. This was one of the GREAT bombers produced by the U.S. during the 40' and 50's.
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Re: Engine location
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2013, 12:57:38 PM »
Any reason they made the B-36 a pusher
You mean like a guy in a hoodie standing outside of the school gate?
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