On Chute-Shooting...

[AKSeaWulfe]

 

Originally posted by Kirin:
Shit - I came too late...    

     

I KNEW them Luftwieners were wieners... Look at that screenshot.. just look at it!!! He's got his head pushed all the way up so he can "see over" his D9's nose.

I don't suppose you think the D9's gunnery is a little odd too Kirin? Serious question so please answer it, the above was just drivel. :-)
-SW

[SOB]

 

Originally posted by Twist:
Seriously though, those that do it are part of the "who gives a damn,so what, no big deal, I'll do what I like cuz I can and if you don't like it you can kiss my ass" crowd. Most of which can be found at your local X-game tryouts or the local punk dive.

Nice broad generalization.  Great follow up, detailing what the majority of this group of meanies does with their time.

 

Originally posted by Twist:
As far as the rest go, have at it fellas, shoot all the chutes you want, but don't expect a 6 call or assistance from the rest of us.

Speak for yourself.  I have my six called on a regular basis by many fine Bish pilots, not all of whome are dastardly enough to fire rounds off at a poor helpless soul dangling below the silk.


SOB of da eLiTe Punk XgamerZ!

[NUTTZ]

 

Originally posted by brady:

 I always say u can tell a lot about somebody by how they play a game....

Brady

Tell that to the Darryl Strawberry fans
NUTTZ

[Twist]

Wanna borrow some pliers SOB? Them hooks can be a b*tch to take out sometimes  

Told ya it'd work Lizard.....

[StSanta]

Ak dude, that's a TA-152, not a D9.  

We're real heroes, and take our ta152s into furballs, knowing they're con magnets.

Much more fun   .

i don't use elevated sight in ta152 because it doesn't give an advantage in that plane. i do in A8 and A5 though  

ROFL kirin, good thing you censored the name, whoever that was, he must be a true Satan.

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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"

[This message has been edited by StSanta (edited 04-09-2001).]

[SOB]

eh?  I thought this whole thread was a troll!  

[AKSeaWulfe]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
Ak dude, that's a TA-152, not a D9.  

We're real heroes, and take our ta152s into furballs, knowing they're con magnets.

Much more fun    .

i don't use elevated sight in ta152 because it doesn't give an advantage in that plane. i do in A8 and A5 though    

Flown the Ta152 twice, as far as I can tell the D9 and 152 look identical from my limited flight time in both. <shrug> I was hoping to dispell the myth that the D9's gunnery is, as the LWieners put it, "porked".    

Now as far the A5 and getting an advantage by moving the head up higher, I dunno... I always did fine with it when I sat in my seat like a NORMAL person with his limbs INSIDE of the canopy.

Gimme any plane and a death dot, and I'll make hell freeze over.    

-SW

[Sandman_SBM]

I don't think I've intentionally went after a chute until tonight...

Man... he was right there.. dangling in the breeze and I drilled him. All in all... quite exhilirating... especially when he called me names afterwords... I think it was something to the effect of "chute shooting dweeb"... too funny.

<S> Torp...

BTW... I liked that so much, I think I'll do it again... and again.

LOL!

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cheers,
sand
screamin blue messiahs
The SBM's are hiring!

[StSanta]

LOL seawulfe, i hear ya

Still cannot hit anything with D9, so I take A8 instead. Love the snapshot ability of that plane  

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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"

[Moose11]

Ya know, if you look at some of the posts in here as jokes and not flames, this thread is pretty fediddleing hilarious.  

[mrfish]

i think chute shooters are despicable. you should all go wash your mouths out with soap.

[MrSiD]

IMO the reason why chute shooting pisses people off is:

1st Ego, having lost a fight and then your opponent spitting on the corpse

2nd Score

3rd Historically it was a despicable act.


OTOH it is true that anyone who bails at over 1k up and actually OPENS his chute did a mistake. Who would want to spend 2 minutes of game time hanging from a chute? Theyre better off shot away.

In h2h its common that people ask others to shoot theyre chute because they bailed in panic and want to come back to play  

[Jekyll]

 

If it were anything near real, you'd be flying entirely different. You'd be changing your pants after every engagement. You'd be looking at things entirely different.

Wonder why the community insists on correct FM's, gunnery models etc?

After all, its only a game! )

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'Funny thing about "community", its tough not to be one of the sheep..':  Tronski

[Mark Luper]

I wasn't going to reply to this thread but here goes...

In real life I can see the strategic value in eliminating the enemy's pilots. Keep them from commming up again and possibly killing one of your mates. Don't really know how I would react in that situation if I were ever put in it.

In here, in Aces High, we are playing at real life however, as many have pointed out, it is just a game.

In any game I play I beleive in sportsmanship. I like to give and take, play fair, and keep it upbeat. If I score on my opponent, in our case here shoot him down, I salute him. I shot him down because he made a mistake giving me the advantage necessary to do so. If I shoot his chute I feel I am rubbing it in. I don't personaly see that as necessary. It's a form of gloating in my viewpoint and not in keeping with my thoughts of keeping the game "upbeat".

I see it, chute shooting, not as a moral issue or a matter of "honor" per se but as an indicator of the type of character of an individual. Since this is just a game I don't really beleive that that character is necessarily flawed, but different.

If that chutist carried a 20mm Hispano and could shoot back it would change the entire way I would view this. He would then not be defensless. To shoot at someone who can't shoot back to me is more a matter of poor taste and a lack of sportsmanship.

Now this is the way I view it and I certainly don't feel everyone should see things the way I see them. We each pay our money to enjoy this game. I do feel that being shot in a chute reduces my enjoyment therefore I don't wish to reduce the other guys enjoyment.

I have quit bailing from my plane. It bothers me enough to get shot in my chute that I don't wish to put myself in that situation again. It probably screws my k/d ratio but since it isn't anything to brag about anyway I don't see it as much of a loss.

'Nuff said.

[gijeff]

Salute Gents,

Chute shooting is a controversial subject, no doubt.  My personal feeling is that someone that shoots chutes is, A. Trying to rub it in, or trolling.  B.  Trying to pork your score by messing with your kill/death ratio.  Or C.  Trying to remove a possible source of information to the enemy. I only consider the third motivation to be acceptable, myself.  People are wasting ammo when they shoot chutes, thus limiting their own ability to defend themselves when attacked, and their ability to do meaningful damage to the enemy.  Thus they are acting in a way inconsistent with teamwork. (we never see anything inconsistent with teamwork in AH do we?)  

I fly in such a manner as to always be an asset to my team.  I look at the map and see where I can do the most good for Knights.  That might be doing something I don't particularly enjoy, or am not particularly good at.  The team comes first though.  Not everyone plays this way.  Make no mistake, I don't expect everyone to but it WOULD be nice.  

I have been known to take up a zeke at an airfield under attack by 10+ cons.  This is heck on your kill/death ratio.  However, if I can fly little patterns over the field and frustrate those 10+ cons long enough for the ack to return and hangars to come back up or pilots to get off the airfield without being vulched, the enemy won't get that field.  Furthermore, they will be essentially wasting the resources sent to take that base (the 10+ pilots trying to shoot me down, rather than taking the base).  In this manner I have done the most good with the least resources (one pilot and a zeke).  

Back to the subject of chute shooting, I will use an old t-shirt slogan to describe my feelings on that... "Mean people suck".    People are going to do whatever they wish, nothing to be done about it, I think it is poor sportsmanship and definitely a sign of a character flaw to do it for any other reason than to prevent chute spying.  I disagree with some others that it is acceptable since it is not real life.  

I do not alter my behavior simply because I am in a game, I do what I should do, or what I feel is right ALL the time, period.  I have stayed in a fight with no ammo because my wingie was outnumbered and the enemy avoiding me getting on their six (they don't know I am winchester) may improve his chances for survival.  Yeah, it's just a game, but you are either honorable or you ain't.  Saying it's just a game doesn't cut it IMHO.  It is an excuse for your behavior, and why excuse it if it is something you are proud of?

GIJeff