Change to Half-Winged flight?

[Pand]

In the past month, has there been a change to the flight model in the P-51 (or other aircraft) when a half wing has been taken off?  I appears to be more difficult to control than it used to be.   Thanks for the info.   

[manglex1]

In the past month, has there been a change to the flight model in the P-51 (or other aircraft) when a half wing has been taken off?  I appears to be more difficult to control than it used to be.   Thanks for the info.   

I noticed this too. I just can't seem to keep it level anymore. Even when I trim.

[Babalonian]

IF there was a change to the mustang, it was a good while ago.  I noted many months ago a similar situation, where I over-trimmed ("FUBAR-trimmed") with the mustang easier than I did before. 

I honestly figured it was due to me maybe using trim more agressively and actively than i used to when I more frequently flew the mustang in AH, but still... I don't feel as if it used to be that unfriendly.  I'm not convinced anything has been changed though, I used to not use trim as proactively, and I trim out dmage much earlier than I used to, where I would only start using trim after slowing down and loosing enough control with just my stick.  I've assumed in my case that trimming out damage earlier, and when you're traveling faster with CT enabled, leads to FUBAR-tim settings when your mustang slows down to limping-home-speed.

[manglex1]

IF there was a change to the mustang, it was a good while ago.  I noted many months ago a similar situation, where I over-trimmed ("FUBAR-trimmed") with the mustang easier than I did before. 

I honestly figured it was due to me maybe using trim more agressively and actively than i used to when I more frequently flew the mustang in AH, but still... I don't feel as if it used to be that unfriendly.  I'm not convinced anything has been changed though, I used to not use trim as proacively, and I trim out dmage much earlier than I used to, where I would only start using trim after slowing down and loosing enough control with just my stick.  I've assumed in my case that trimming out damage earlier, and when you're travelign faster with CT enabled, leads to FUBAR-tim settings when your mustang slows down to limping-home-speed.

The problem with me is that I don't recover any sort of control. Before I could usually do it using just my joystick. But, now even with trim its difficult to stop my spiral. And, when I do I'm usually angled towards the ground. Haha

[Babalonian]

The problem with me is that I don't recover any sort of control. Before I could usually do it using just my joystick. But, now even with trim its difficult to stop my spiral. And, when I do I'm usually angled towards the ground. Haha

I hear ya, it's easy to put in that nasty spiral.  Next time it starts to get away from ya, enable combat trim, then trim out the aileron only to counter damage.  I typicaly regain a noticable amount of stability.  Also, I find using too much flaps is a bad thing, but one or two notches is a must sometimes with getting slower in a damaged mustang.

Like I said earlier, I do remember it being easier to nurse it home, but I am only human.

[RedBull1]

It could very easily be the wing you lost, say you lost your left wingtip, now not only do you have to counter for that wingtip missing, but torque is also trying to pull you over.

Compared to the right wingtip, you have torque working with you pulling the aircraft left slightly counter acting - even if only a little, that missing wingtip.

I know it makes quite a noticeable difference in the K4, but of course the K4 has torque for dayzzz compared to the Pony




*shrugs, just a thought

[manglex1]

I hear ya, it's easy to put in that nasty spiral.  Next time it starts to get away from ya, enable combat trim, then trim out the aileron only to counter damage.  I typicaly regain a noticable amount of stability.  Also, I find using too much flaps is a bad thing, but one or two notches is a must sometimes with getting slower in a damaged mustang.

Like I said earlier, I do remember it being easier to nurse it home, but I am only human.

Haha, I already do this. I usually don't take off combat trim unless I need to counteract damage. I might have just lost my touch. Or, it could have been remodeled like Pand said. Thanks for the help though  . Just by this thread I've come up with some new ideas for getting that darn nose up after bringing my spiral under control  .

Redbull, for some reason that never occurred to me. I don't really remember which wing it is I've lost though. The damage control has become an automatic response rather than a thought process. I'll make sure to remember which wing I've lost to see if there is any notable difference in each side. Thanks 

[Sunka]

It could very easily be the wing you lost, say you lost your left wingtip, now not only do you have to counter for that wingtip missing, but torque is also trying to pull you over.

Compared to the right wingtip, you have torque working with you pulling the aircraft left slightly counter acting - even if only a little, that missing wingtip.

I know it makes quite a noticeable difference in the K4, but of course the K4 has torque for dayzzz compared to the Pony




*shrugs, just a thought

I always had a hard time with the 51 if i lost left wing (prop torque side). But could always feather her home if i lost right side.Not lost one lately ,been in the 109 most of the time so I'm not sure if anything has changed.

[Pand]

I usually fly home with at least 1 to 2 instances per night with half a wing.it is true the left wing is usually harder than the right wing; however, I only noticed the difficulty increase over the last week or so. I still get them home, but I used to be able to fly straight and level with 1 notch of flaps on the left wing and now it takes two to stabilize with autopilot.

[Babalonian]

It could very easily be the wing you lost, say you lost your left wingtip, now not only do you have to counter for that wingtip missing, but torque is also trying to pull you over.

Compared to the right wingtip, you have torque working with you pulling the aircraft left slightly counter acting - even if only a little, that missing wingtip.

I know it makes quite a noticeable difference in the K4, but of course the K4 has torque for dayzzz compared to the Pony




*shrugs, just a thought

I think we know why, it's a matter of how user-firendly it is to nurse home in that known state, and how "easy" it was to accomplish then and now.

[pervert]

I usually fly home with at least 1 to 2 instances per night with half a wing.it is true the left wing is usually harder than the right wing; however, I only noticed the difficulty increase over the last week or so. I still get them home, but I used to be able to fly straight and level with 1 notch of flaps on the left wing and now it takes two to stabilize with autopilot.

Might be your stick not centering if you are using autolevel and knocking it off? I know but cannot remember that losing on aileron on one side of the dora complete screws how it flys, maybe the same with wings? Would be interesting to the reason why though