Rash of 109s and 190s

[Scotch]

There was that one tour where Moot and Grizz had 50% of all 152 kills. And I had 15% of all k4 kills.

[kappa]

Fester got #1 rank flying the a8 pretty much exclusively I believe..

edit: and Irish ONLY flys the 190...

[Bruv119]

I don't agree with your comments subtext, "flying a 109 makes me more manly than you" argument. Which seems to be the basis of 90% of these discussions. I will grant that the 109 is a harder plane to fly, learn, and get good in. Props to those of you who do. But if you don't dominate in EVERY aircraft, and I mean every single one, then the fact that you are the best in the hardest to learn means little to nothing. It just means you were more dedicated to learning that one and that it was your choice to do so. I would wager that if anyone in this game was as attracted to the 109 as much as you, they would be just as good they are capable of being in the aircraft they left behind.

None of the aircraft in this game reign supreme.

well said muzik, 

Debrody and I seem to have irreversible opinions of one another, the language barrier doesn't help but he seems to know enough to insult.  Maybe it was Midway's trolling abilities that got under his skin or the hundreds of times I've killed him in an un-acceptable manner to his tastes. 

We just need to have another one of those long dueling sessions.   The last "friendly" one got taken out of context due to him arguing with midway which has nothing to do with me.   The fact that I out flew him in his precious 109G6 after spending little to no time in it must have cut deep.  The fact that he performed much better against me in the KI-84 and Spitfires suggests that they are indeed easier to fly?  So why then lose so badly in your own experten ride???  I guess this is my point that ACM knows no boundaries.  Stick time, practice and an appreciation of as many different planes will produce a more rounded pilot and not a one trick pony.

I thought we were past all of this hate but obviously not.   

[Debrody]

If insulting means the truth being said into your eyes, and if that hurts you that much, then yes, i know how to, and will "insult" you.
I was "only" flying the 109. Never stated that i am an expert or i could ever get used to it. The only aircraft i think i can fly well is the 190D9.

That named duel happened almost a year ago. I became someone else since that.
In the c2 fights, one plane i have really never ever upped before. You lost the scissors twice. Not surprised you were afraid of me in the only ride i can fly.
I cannot match your sense of timing to arrive just in the perfect moment.

[Bruv119]

after reviewing the film of the C2 (a plane I too have no experience in)  I concluded that I was overly aggressive bleeding too much E and you kept it safe and much smoother.  Something your very proud of NOT doing in usual circumstances.   

So do I call you all the names under the sun because I lost a fair fight?  No.   

The 190D is hardly a plane to dogfight in,  it's strengths are raw power, roll rate and climb.  When someone like Pervert maximises every inch of those positive qualities he is categorised by you as some sort of "weaker" person.   The art of Dogfighting is to get on your opponents six or kill them with as little risk to your own aircraft as possible.   Maybe I'm wrong because this is a computer game after all.

Fly Spitfires, Fly Luft, do whatever makes you happy but don't act like a whiny little crybaby in the presence of adults or you'll be treated as such.

[Debrody]

I dont know, i dont have the films.
Now compare the c2 and the 190 fights. Betcha you will get to the conclusion that you came down and i was BnZing you. What ever.

[Bruv119]

I dont know, i dont have the films.
Now compare the c2 and the 190 fights. Betcha you will get to the conclusion that you came down and i was BnZing you. What ever.

I've already said the 190 fight was unfair,  but you discoed and were a wabbit.   Fuzeman should have closed the runway if it was going to cause you distress.   

[Debrody]

I am not talking about "the" 190 fight.
There was an other in the frikoth when Mr Moron dragged me down to the deck. Just killed him, barely could see SQUAT swinging in, but just in time to reverse and kill him. Then you came at 4k, and were BnZing me for a good 4 minutes. Guessing that was the fight when "you almost lost the energy trying to give me a fight" but still had just enough to get ~450 above me in the rope when you got reversed.
The third round in the january frikoth.

After that, you choosed the G6, and expected me to be pleased, even though you exactly know its my plane of suckage - as you just stated above. No, thank, you.

And after that, youre talking about how smooth i was in the c2 fights ergo what a hypocrite i am? Seriously?
I have nothing left to say.

Only this:
"Post the films please. All of them.
The Dora film from the TOC.
The C205 film from the TOC.
The C202 film from the frikoth.
And the Dora film from the frikoth too."

[Randy1]

What y'all should do is spend a week in a P39Q to cleanse your pallet sort of speak then try the other guys plane for a week. 

[grizz441]

I don't remember who they were to, but my response was not personal Debrody. I guess if I was to plan it out, it would be to prove all of these aircraft bashing arguments are acts of insane futility.

Case in point, the runstang chronicles.

Of course the spit is easy mode. We all know it, so what's the point in repeating it again and/or trying to smear that fact in others faces? And yes, I would agree with your comments literal meaning, an experienced pilot flying the easy mode a/c and smack talking when he kills someone (other than the same a/c in a duel) is "weird." I would use the word "lame" or "pathetic."

I don't agree with your comments subtext, "flying a 109 makes me more manly than you" argument. Which seems to be the basis of 90% of these discussions. I will grant that the 109 is a harder plane to fly, learn, and get good in.  reign supreme.

Spits are for kids, Brits, and newbs. German iron and P38s are what men fly. Little girls fly ponies. P39s are for self masochists.

[SkyRock]

Spits are for kids, Brits, and newbs. German iron and P38s are what men fly. Little girls fly ponies. P39s are for self masochists.

[Bruv119]

here ya go deb, it is the whole film because I think some other fights display whatever point i'm trying to prove.

http://thefewsquadron.co.uk/films/film17.ahf

also the first fight in KI-84's what happened on the way down there?  I know you said you were drunk but the 190D fight lasted about 90 seconds and not 4 minutes.  Within those 90 seconds I made 3 guns passes.  I think the typical 190 driver would take 5 minutes to finish extending.

The subtext of the KOTH was Manawar being his usual tool self and I was in there to kill him.  I'm not sure whether this harsh lesson had any impact on him.

[JOACH1M]

Lets play nice here people.

[nrshida]

Lets play nice here people.

What are the chances? 

[bozon]

Lets play nice here people.

Dont stop them, I am enjoying this 
<goes back to the sofa and grabs the popcorn>