On gaming the game - comments please

[Lizard3]

You can hide a snubby .38 in your jock can't ya? That don't meen ya can whip it out and blow the first basemans diddlyin head off before he can make the catch. Dweebs!

[Moose11]

Oh my.

[Maverick]

Going of the map in ANY vehicle should result in a destroyed vehicle and a death for the player with all of the point ramifications that would entail. This ranks up there with carbombing, stick stirring and the way some players were able to induce warps.


Mav

[Hooligan]

I don't really see how having a CV that can be hidden is really any different than having weapon availablity being denied by bombing a hangar.  I dislike both of these features of the game equally and for exactly the same reasons.

Hooligan

[Sturm]

Moose if the edge was turned off I would be in favor of it.  And I agree that we both have different views on this.  I support the members who fly in our group 100%.  But what I do find not acceptable is sending the fleet to enemy territory with no one on it to defend it.  As far as hiding it, I really do not know how far the map extends out.  I guess this problem won't be solved until HTC fixes the outer limits of the map.  This is the only game I have been in that really criticizes off map excursions.  

     I guess this whole thing stems from sending the CV to enemy territory when no one was on it to defend it.  And a person with a high rank controlled it and nothing could be done to stop it.  I guess if you look at it from that view you can see where we are coming from.      

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[brady]

 
 To me the matter is black amd white. I play AH to "win the war" . The Primary object of this war of ours is to take basses, a secondary object is to destroy the enemy infrastructure.
 Having said that, it seams quiet obvious that to allow a CV to recaptured by the enemy, would certainly do them much more good than any we may get from the short time we would own it while it was in harms way.
  The point of the debate with AK was that they wanted to allow the CV to be in play, to allow the enemy a shot at it, My point was this was not a wise move for our side, a CV is a very easy thing to sink.
 Sink it they did and shortly afterward we lost 4 bases all of which were attacked by aircraft flow from that CV. This is of course directly attributed to AK's decision to allow the CV in harms way.
 
  Before I became a knight I was a Bishop for about 5 months, while I was a Bishop we went without a CV for a number of days on numerous occasions'.

 Brady

 

[milnko]

 

Originally posted by Moose11:
Oh my.

ROTFLMAO

That phrase is addictive ain't it?

Next you'll be shootin' over your squaddies canopies too  

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[Cobra]

   

Originally posted by TheWobble:
Radar officer:

Grneral yakamoto..the enemy has moved their fleet off our radar!!!!

General yakamoto on open channel:  

DWEEBS!!

Wobble,
I look at it this way....

This Yakamoto guy could not take any fleet off of the earth.

To me, for our purposes here, the map is our known earth and boundaries.  

Taking a captured CV group and moving it across the map or even have it take a Love Boat cruise is ok IMO.

What isn't ok, is taking it off the map and out of the boundaries.  Is it possible to do, yes, does that make it ok...not by me, but to each his own.

Paintmaw,
What difference does your question make?  AKCurly just happened to bring it up because it happened with the Knights and he is flying in that chess piece this tour. I think it is more relevant to focus on his original intent of solicitating opinions on this aspect of the game.

Brady,
I think at this point the Rooks may own a bish CV (13 I think).  The bish have owned P14 for sometime now.  They have not retreived their CV back, nor have we taken it off the map.  It has been in play and on the map the whole time.  It has taken a scenic tour, but it has been on the map and at times within very close striking distance of Knits and Bish.  Was even used on the offensive.

I see a big difference between that and taking a CV off the map and beyond the map's boarders.

Cobra

**Edit...Oops the Bish got it back!


 

[This message has been edited by Cobra (edited 04-08-2001).]

[Kieran]

See what happens when Gilligan slips the Skipper a sleeping pill?  

[Pongo]

Well some rooks will be pretty pissed at me if I see ours or a captured CV off the map.
I will either out it or stear it to where it can engage. To do other wise is knightly.
If ours is missing when I log on I will change coutries and find it.
Any questions.

[AKDejaVu]

I would love to see code added that if a CV were outside of a certain zone (off the map) for more than 15 minutes it returned to its port.

AKDejaVu

[AKcurly]

Ok, thanks for your remarks.  I didn't bring this up to chide Brady or Whels1 -- it's their $30.  

On the other hand, let me point it's lunacy to use words like "honor" and "traitor to your country."

Guys, this is a game.  The purpose of the game is to have fun.  Our intentions should be guided by actions which result in more fun for all three countries.

Making a quick capture of a port and CV [knowing in advance you can't defend it] and then hiding the CV isn't fun for anyone except perhaps for the guys who did it.

Making true "off the map" raids on HQ isn't fun for anyone, except perhaps for the raiders.  On the other hand, nothing is more fun than looking up towards HQ and seeing a big, red bar.  Even if I get shot down and even if we lose DAR, man, now that's fun!

I have no grief with anyone doing anything that HTC permits <shrug> their $30.

However, so long as the majority of the community looks down on 'off the map' hq raids and 'hiding the CV,' I imagine there will be always be someone to move the CV back into play or simply tell the opposition where it's located.  Similarly about the HQ raids.

I haven't seen the bish or rooks do either of the above.  It doesn't mean the bish and rooks don't do it --- I just haven't see it.  I have seen a few of the knights repeatedly do both deeds.  Most knights appear to believe 'hiding the CV' and 'off map HQ raids' really suck.  If I had a dollar for every time I was flying either rook or bish and had been warned there was an off-the-map HQ raid in progress, why I could comfortably retire.  

Anyway, I don't censor whels1 or brady5 -- as far as I'm concerned, they can play the game anyway they want to.  Ahem, so can I and so can Nimitz.    That certainly includes moving the CV back into play.

Strum, I didn't discuss this with you because it's not a squad matter.  It's a game play issue and I wanted to know how the community felt about the issues.  Your opinion concerning CV hiding is important to me, but only as a participant, not as a member of jv44.

AKcurly

[BUG_EAF322]

why not having a kind off mine field outside the map so there would be a chance to make it but probably not.

If we can fly or sail off map so be it
it is possible so it will be done
make the boundarys bigger

Actually this is the only way for suprise attacks in AH sometimes an offmap attack unites forces and that is a good thing  

U can't win the game with offmap attacks that has never been done it also costs a lot more time to do it.

[Voss]

There is an even easier answer. Redesign the clipboard so that users can slew the map a number of sectors off center. You might even highlight the dweebs in a bright yellow, so we all know what they are.  

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[MrSiD]

I have a better idea: let's just get rid of the player controlled fleet completely!

Lets face it: The heavy fleet ack sucks.. endless whining about it.. Because its so overmodeled the fleet has become an instrument of terror for most players. (You know, us who regularly have problems with it..)

The fleet is mostly used for gaming the game according to the posts, now who wants that?

There is always a fight about who knows how to control the fleet best, why bother?

If the fleet is so damn precious that you can't take it near combat, what's the use of having one? Just to deny enemy the use of it? Again, why bother?

It's better off with random computer control and neutered ack OR better yet, completely removed.

Just my .02