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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2013, 06:13:34 PM »
+1 for the Oscar  :aok
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #121 on: March 10, 2013, 08:57:40 PM »
wow.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-eBmnpCO18&feature=related


Yall should watch this, he is making some interesting statements on how the (early) ki-43 was to fly,how it handles and even how it vibrated highly at higher speeds making aiming even more hard.



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« Reply #122 on: March 10, 2013, 09:22:07 PM »
wow.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-eBmnpCO18&feature=related


Yall should watch this, he is making some interesting statements on how the (early) ki-43 was to fly,how it handles and even how it vibrated highly at higher speeds making aiming even more hard.





you said that right WOW

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #123 on: March 10, 2013, 11:31:06 PM »
Yohei Hinoki  :salute

He loved Ki-43, and Ki-100 in the war. :salute

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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #124 on: March 11, 2013, 03:54:49 AM »
But, I think HTC selected most difficult version in Ki43.

because,Ki43-II have some minor version.
I showed it in forum "Ki-43 service dates?"of"Aircraft and Vehicles".
if you want know Ki43, plz check.
(notice, Version name was attached Aero detail's name"http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/biblio/series/aero_detail/ad29.jpg"
.IJA did'nt use such name.)
and Ki43-II's Max speed is diffelent each minor versions.

I think , HTC should select Ki-43III, because Ki43-III don't have many minor versions.
(it's only Ki-43IIIotsu, having 2 Ho-5 20mm , is prototype.but Ki-43IIIkou was build over 1000.)

may be, this info is first info of many people not speak japanese, i think.
and I'm worried that many people don't believe my info, because Book in English side is not have such info.
But Japanse Book and Original IJA's resource have these info.

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« Reply #125 on: March 11, 2013, 06:45:36 AM »
Pkun, I understand what you are saying. The problem is that HTC's resources aren't unlimited. IMO Ki-43-II was a better choice of variant than the Ki-43-III if it is only variant for now that's coming. Considering that the -II is by far the most produced variant and saw service the longest. It is true that based on the 3D-model it seems to be a late production version of the -II. I don't think that's a problem in itself. Of course in the perfect world there could be 4-5 different variants added but I don't think that is realistic.
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« Reply #126 on: March 11, 2013, 07:37:54 AM »
Cool Japanese war-time movie scene featuring Ki-43-II.

http://youtu.be/1BXo-jWcGnw
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Given the technology at the time and the overall era, I think it is very good.
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Re: Ki-43 coming!
« Reply #127 on: March 11, 2013, 08:01:21 AM »
you said that right WOW

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Based partly on the Oscar pilot's testimony, the plane was light, weak, agile, and not forgiving.  At high speeds (X speed), it started to shake.  I'm guessing that does not quite mean compressing though???

He also mentioned once the wings were clipped (roll rate and less stress on wings = "more strength"), and cannon were added that it became a much better plane.

Very good read, that is the type of testimony I hope HTC pays attention to when able.  Anyone ever look up testimony for the F2A's?   :D
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« Reply #128 on: March 11, 2013, 08:22:17 AM »
He seemed to feel the -II was a vast improvement on the -I with his attitude about it being very different.  It sounds like there were not just specification changes, but also quality control improvements.
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« Reply #129 on: March 11, 2013, 09:14:42 AM »
He seemed to feel the -II was a vast improvement on the -I with his attitude about it being very different.  It sounds like there were not just specification changes, but also quality control improvements.

Yep. The weak part was in regards of the -I.

It isn't surprising considering the huge amount of weight that -II gained over the -I. Ki-43-II's normal take-off weight is ~1200lbs (!!) higher. Ki-43-I was truly without a compromise in terms of wing loading. It doesn't get any lower than that as far as retractable gear monoplane fighters of WWII are concerned (93.1kg/sqm).
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« Reply #130 on: March 11, 2013, 11:30:25 AM »
What is that, like 18-20 lbs/sqft?
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« Reply #131 on: March 11, 2013, 12:06:13 PM »
What is that, like 18-20 lbs/sqft?
19.045lbs/sq.ft.

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« Reply #132 on: March 11, 2013, 01:26:42 PM »
This table puts the weight of the Ki-43-I in perspective:



Ki-43-I's wing loading is close to a modern monoplane aerobatic aircraft. Ki-43-II is closer to the A6M-line but unlike Zeros, it has effective combat flaps.

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« Reply #133 on: March 11, 2013, 02:51:24 PM »
Based partly on the Oscar pilot's testimony, the plane was light, weak, agile, and not forgiving.  At high speeds (X speed), it started to shake.  I'm guessing that does not quite mean compressing though???

He also mentioned once the wings were clipped (roll rate and less stress on wings = "more strength"), and cannon were added that it became a much better plane.

Very good read, that is the type of testimony I hope HTC pays attention to when able.  Anyone ever look up testimony for the F2A's?   :D

From what i could understand, the shaking is more due to over speeding. Because he mentioned "like the planes without retractable landing gear the ki-43 would start to shake violently at higher speeds" not quoted exactly, but...yea. I would assume this could also happen when in a higher speed dive, HOWEVER..it also could have been something with the rpm of the engine.
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« Reply #134 on: March 11, 2013, 03:46:45 PM »
From what i could understand, the shaking is more due to over speeding. Because he mentioned "like the planes without retractable landing gear the ki-43 would start to shake violently at higher speeds" not quoted exactly, but...yea. I would assume this could also happen when in a higher speed dive, HOWEVER..it also could have beenData Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????f+~f+~       276704102MltCpy2.10 FILL FILLed Sector; ST500DM002-9YN14 (CC4H) S1D5GMZYData Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????M3 I hear a lot of creaking and groaning of the airframe while doing typical maneuvers and the Zeke is supposed to be a more stout plane than the Oscar, yes?
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