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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: Window
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 11:06:49 PM »
yeah sure it's easy, if there arent any defenders.  10 guys attacking will definitely destroy a base assuming 1 bomber, 1 goon and 8 fighters heavy fighters.  but it all depends if the players defending want to actually defend the base. 3 or 4 guys defending will stop the base take easily.

the attacking team is more dependent on the defenders' skill than on their own.



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Lol, yeah, if they make no attempt at stealth, and don't comprehend the concept of misdirection.

3 guys low and fast can take a base. 1set of bombers for town, a de-acker, and a goon.

Even if the goon gets killed, misdirection takes over. Plan ahead and leave dar up, grab a fourth guy and fly in with three fighters.

Defenders will count inbound cons, and after a once over of the spawn and town, move to deal with the fighters. At that point, the fourth guy slips in with an M3, using the defender's error in logic as cover.
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Offline jeffdn

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Re: Window
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2013, 11:12:09 PM »
A horde is a large group of players whose primary goal is to shut down and either vulch or take bases, with as little actual combat, through any and every means available.

Also a group becomes a horde when it encounters resistance of roughly comparable strength, and others are drawn by the darbar.

It was a rhetorical question, I'm not an idiot. If you read what I wrote, my point was that the word horde is essentially meaningless, as any time a base is taken by more than 3-4 people and/or the defenders are overwhelmed, people start throwing around the word horde as an excuse or a complaint.

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Re: Window
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2013, 11:39:52 PM »
10 is mission size, 15+ is when people start calling horde, and rightly so.
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Re: Window
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 01:20:38 AM »
     Hmmm, AH has no nighttime, yet folks want to use Window.....curious huh?
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Offline guncrasher

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Re: Window
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 10:20:55 AM »
Lol, yeah, if they make no attempt at stealth, and don't comprehend the concept of misdirection.

3 guys low and fast can take a base. 1set of bombers for town, a de-acker, and a goon.

Even if the goon gets killed, misdirection takes over. Plan ahead and leave dar up, grab a fourth guy and fly in with three fighters.

Defenders will count inbound cons, and after a once over of the spawn and town, move to deal with the fighters. At that point, the fourth guy slips in with an M3, using the defender's error in logic as cover.

stealth for sure except base beginning blinking as soon as you get in dar range.   but of course no defenders will up and the bomber can easily make 3 passes to level town.  fighters will clean up the town deack it so about 7 or 8 minutes after the base starts blinking then the defenders finally up to kill the goon, which if you had planned ahead should have already been sitting in town. then fighters pull away to "misdirect" then m3 moves in to take base.  so you went from 3 guys low and fast can take a base to 5, well six since the bomber guy is rtb'ing and assuming that the goon is the one taking the m3.

several things that you depend on:

1 defenders wont notice the base is under attack for at least 8 minutes giving buff a chance to make 2 passes on town.
2 bomber must take most of town down in two passes so lots of bombs which means lancs to give even more warning as they are slow.
3 defenders kill the goon but fail to check spawn? even as the town is deacked and white flagged?
4 your whole strategy of base take is based solely on maybe a couple of defenders and the defenders chasing the fighters.
5 there's a gv spawn which makes me wonder why the m3 wasnt there first to begin with.
6 low numbers on the arenas as if there's 400 plus then good luck taking a base unnoticed.

I have a better scenario:

1 set of lancs to destroy town.  since according to you they will not be spotted as they are approaching stealthy.
2 bring back a fighter with rockets, cannons and couple of bombs to finish up town and deack town.
3 bring m3 and take the base.

see no need for 5 guys when a single player can do it by himself.

and before you start quoting about how you and a few friendlies have taken a base all by yourself, I should remind you that I have taken bases by myself too, not lately, but I have.  but it is an unusual situation.


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Re: Window
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2013, 10:42:39 AM »
Driving a GV to a field that has no spawn works well......................... ...until one of your teammates decides to buzz your hidden m3 with troops multiple times in order to clear his six.

I like taking LTV from cv before it is close enough to cause the base to blink.

Then, it's easy to flank the field and approach town from a direction they never expect.