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Offline skorpx1

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Suicide Prevention Help.
« on: April 09, 2013, 08:03:32 PM »
So as of late, there has been lots of suicides where I live in and right now I am dealing with a friend who wants to do the same. Its for unrelated issues to the previous suicides, but so far iv'e told the school counselor and my friend has been sent to a psychiatric ward and has been taken care of from there. Its still a long road to recovery and to happiness, but so far she is utterly pissed at me. I'm not really surprised. I'd rather have a mad friend than a dead friend.

If anyone has had experience with this, please contact me via PM so I can know what to expect in some areas of this territory.


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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 08:34:27 PM »
Why don't you look up a mental health care professional in your area to help you out? 

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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 09:07:31 PM »
Why don't you look up a mental health care professional in your area to help you out? 

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I'm already talking to the school counselor who has experience with this, but i'd like some advice from people who have gone through the same thing as myself. I'd like to get more than just one view on the issue.

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 09:15:34 PM »
Gotta agree with Ack. Encourage them to seek professional help. If they won't and you think they are serious, intervene and get the help for them. Talk to their friends, talk to their family, talk to anyone that will listen. Otherwise be prepared to go to a funeral.
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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 10:05:56 PM »
Gotta agree with Ack. Encourage them to seek professional help. If they won't and you think they are serious, intervene and get the help for them. Talk to their friends, talk to their family, talk to anyone that will listen. Otherwise be prepared to go to a funeral.
Suicides are known to happen in copycat waves.

I'm already getting her help, its just the ride i'm in for that I would like some advice on.

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 10:14:15 PM »
I would call up a suicide prevention hotline and talk to there workers there far more trained and knowledgeable and could help you understand what your going to deal with from your friend then anyone here ... Seriously
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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 11:22:21 PM »
It just wouldn't be right to post, what I was about to.   So here is the abridged edition instead, before posting.

I miss my friend Fred Wrede Jr. and think of him often.   I kept him alive one evening after his Father passed on August 31st, 2006.   That was the longest 5 hour conversation I have ever had and it started from the home phone ringing 1am from a dead sleep.   AWMac recently passed, but because of his Diabetes.  That night in 2006, I had to fight for him, when he didn't want to.   

Lost a High School friend who was punch drunk, got into a nasty fight with his father and in the process of hanging himself, sobered up.   He tried to stop it, but couldn't.   

I will not give out advice, except that it seems she needs professional help.   





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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 11:39:58 PM »
My only input is that it is never too early to intervene.  I know a family that waited, and in the end it was their 95 lb mother wrestling with her 220 lb son for the gun.  She lost and lived, and a few minutes later he lost and died.  Even if the intervention causes a rash action or angry response, failing to intervene has a pretty predictable outcome.

One thing - absolutely sanitize their environment for firearms, no matter what the rest of the family or friends may say.  They can never be given the chance to obtain a gun when in a suicidal mood.  Once they get a gun you simply can't intervene.  If that means Dad or Brother has to give away, sell, lock up, whatever, their family heirlooms, so be it.  Choosing a favorite shooting piece over a family member is pretty sick.
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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 11:41:06 PM »
If the school counselor is not answering your questions, doesn't have enough time for you, or you just don't feel you're getting enough from them, then I would look for other places to find some advice/info. I would imagine this has been traumatic for you too, you've read my other posts, don't need to remind...

Besides crisis hotlines, which I'm sure are great resources for information too, you may call your county hospital and explain to someone there in counseling a little about your situation and desire.

Also, I believe you said you are 16, Al-anon would have many knowledgeable ppl to speak with.  Caveat following:

I'm not a big believer in 12step oriented programs (entirely different discussion,) however the reason I mention it here is because, one need not believe everything 12steper's do to attend their meetings. You can attend for free and say as much or as little as you want. No one there will require you to do anything that you aren't comfortable with. One need not be an alcoholic to attend an AA meeting, one need not be the child of an alcoholic to attend an al-anon meeting, etc., etc.   There is no shame in going to the meetings, nothing wrong with anybody who needs some help every now and then.


GL to you, I hope things get better for her.

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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 01:47:28 AM »
Keep well away from these so called do gooders, they get serious coin "Helping" :old:

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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 06:38:36 AM »
Professional help might work, but if your friend has already decided in their mind that they are going to refuse any help then professional help just won't work. Though if I read the post right, it sounds like it did have a positive affect.


I don't know if your friend hit rock bottom because of family issues, bullying, maybe a mental disorder, or just being unhappy with their life, and I'm not going to pry. I'm sure you (and your friend) don't want to give the details to a bunch of random people on the internet, but here's my advice.


Help your friend find something they love in this world (if they don't have something they enjoy already). If you have something to look forward to the next day then life feels like it's worth living. If anybody thinks less of you or bullies you for what you do or what you like, then screw them! The only person you have to impress is yourself. The only opinion that matters is your own. You like what you like and do what you do because you enjoy it, and that's all that matters.

And don't hate or try to get back at the people who do pick on you. The more time you spend worrying about what they said about you, the more time you spend hating them, the less time you spend enjoying the things you like. You simply just have to learn to ignore those people. After all, their words and thought are just opinions, and who's opinion is that matters to you? You're own!  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2013, 09:23:51 AM »
All I can say is "Good Luck".

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2013, 12:08:56 PM »
Yes I agree :old:

On a positive note you can always talk on here :)

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Re: Suicide Prevention Help.
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 01:01:49 PM »
I would be extremely cautious about helping someone who is potentially suicidal.  In some cases, the life they take, may not necessarily be only themselves.  

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