Lanc .303's overmodelled?

[Ack-Ack]

Always have to resort to being a sweetheart, don't you?

Come at my Lancs at 30k in your pick-and-run 38 you so love, and I promise you'll either go home or eat some tail gun lead, stud.

It's not my fault that you like the skill to use the proper tactics in engaging a bomber.

ack-ack

[Rob52240]

Is the deeper question here whether or not Lancasters merit weaker tactics when attacking because they're a lot less deadly than the 4 engine light load bombers?  Do any others feel as though planes like a stuka or 110 almost deserve to be attacked tail on?

[MK-84]

Is the deeper question here whether or not Lancasters merit weaker tactics when attacking because they're a lot less deadly than the 4 engine light load bombers?  Do any others feel as though planes like a stuka or 110 almost deserve to be attacked tail on?

4 .303s are less deadly then the 2 .50 option.  The .303 option has vastly more ammunition however.

[Vinkman]

I have a K/D of well above 1.0 in most bombers in AH, most above 2.0 even.

And that's ONLY because the majority of players invariably attacks from 6 o clock. They spend 10 minutes or more to climb up to me, and then can't spend another 5 minutes for a proper setup.
Once I see someone passing by and climbing above me outside my gun range, I know I'm screwed. And 8 out of 10 times I actually am.

Unless it's me, because I miss on teh first three passes. 

[SmokinLoon]

4 .303s are less deadly then the 2 .50 option.  The .303 option has vastly more ammunition however.

"less deadly" is not really the term I'd use.  While round for round the .50 does have more oomph that a .30, the faster rate of fire and the 2500 rounds per .30 cal gun (as opposed to 335 round per .50 cal), it is about a wash.  The bigger issue will be the aircraft that have more armor in the nose and the thicker glass in the front canopy.  One thing I know for sure is that since the new Lancs have come out, I've done a far better job at shooting down enemy fighters with the quad .30's than I eve did with the dual .50's. 

I'll take the quad .30's every time.

[Lusche]

Just had witnessed another fine example of typical MA bomebr hunting. Two guys were intercepting a strat raider and there was plenty of time left before he would reach their target.
Turned out to be a set of Lancs cruising at 18k and 277mph. Both interceptors were flying late war fighters and had enough alt and speed to get into any desired position. One was actually slightly above and ahead of the Lancs when they met.

And where did they end up attacking from?




... riding down the beam  

[Triton28]

Lanc Death Ray.. 

Maybe it's my lower graphics settings, but they don't look anywhere near realistic to me.  Just a yellow line shooting out the back.   

I have to agree with what some have said.  Making a proper bomber pass, bombers are meat, Lanc Death Ray or not.  When I get shot down by one it's usually either exceptional and somewhat lucky marksmanship or I was an impatient dummy.

[Wiley]

Lanc Death Ray.. 

Maybe it's my lower graphics settings, but they don't look anywhere near realistic to me.  Just a yellow line shooting out the back.   

I have to agree with what some have said.  Making a proper bomber pass, bombers are meat, Lanc Death Ray or not.  When I get shot down by one it's usually either exceptional and somewhat lucky marksmanship or I was an impatient dummy.

Impatience is the killer 90 percent of the time when I die to buffs.

Wiley.

[shotgunneeley]

To be honest I hate enemy fighters coming down dead 6 worse than ones who will set up the attack properly. Dead 6ers, particularly cannon birds, can put more heavier rounds on me from further out than the convergence of drone guns. Oh yes, I'll chew them up and the fight will be over in a couple seconds, but I usually end up loosing at least one drone. Wish I had the film, but one time I had a ta-152 dead 6 my b-17s and kill 2 drones with a couple hits each while I was steadily nailing him from 1k and then with all guns at D500.

I like having more ammo instead of the heavier hitting 50s. Tactics wont change in attacking lancs, I'll still dive down below and zoom up from underneath. What I have noticed is that the tail sight is a bit lower than the center of the screen. Switch back and forth between guns and you can see the difference.

[Noir]

the number of tracers on that screenshot is disturbing 

[Karnak]

Always thought the pin point gun covergency and range is ridiculous, add to that being able to fire from external view.. etc etc .     

What "pin point convergence"?  By no definition do bomber guns have pin point convergence.  The guns from a single bomber fire parallel to each other and the guns from the formation converge at the fixed distance of 500 or 600 yards, I don't recall which.  There is no pin point convergence.

[Lusche]

(...) and the guns from the formation converge at the fixed distance of 500 or 600 yards, I don't recall which.

500. 

[Wiley]

What "pin point convergence"?  By no definition do bomber guns have pin point convergence.  The guns from a single bomber fire parallel to each other and the guns from the formation converge at the fixed distance of 500 or 600 yards, I don't recall which.  There is no pin point convergence.

You've got to admit though, between 400 and 600 yards is NOT where you want to spend much time.  If they hit you in that range, parts disappear mightily quick.  It's not 'pinpoint', but people can argue that it's better than what actually happened IRL.

Wiley.

[Karnak]

You've got to admit though, between 400 and 600 yards is NOT where you want to spend much time.  If they hit you in that range, parts disappear mightily quick.  It's not 'pinpoint', but people can argue that it's better than what actually happened IRL.

Wiley.

Yes, between 400 and 600 is bad.  Still, the drone's guns are pretty useless at 1000 yards.

Many players still think that bomber guns auto converge on the targeted fighter, as in a bit above and behind the Lancs at 850 yards you would have eighteen .303s all converging to the same point if the fighter were at 850 yards, and that the convergence adjusts with the rage of the fighter.

[Noir]

the convergence adjusts with the rage of the fighter.