Don't Move Controls So Rapidly

[danny76]

It always seems that when people complain abouy the "moving controls too quick" message it is always in reference to someone being on their 6. Never seen a complaknt where it happens elsewhere in a fight. Henve th fact I shall draw proper inference and say 'stop stick stirring' Dont you know I have but a finite number of rounds? 

[mechanic]

'stop stick stirring' Dont you know I have but a finite number of rounds?  

  

[FLS]

It always seems that when people complain abouy the "moving controls too quick" message it is always in reference to someone being on their 6. Never seen a complaknt where it happens elsewhere in a fight. Henve th fact I shall draw proper inference and say 'stop stick stirring' Dont you know I have but a finite number of rounds? 

In my experience it's usually when people are trying to make a shot that they lock up.
All the "stop stick stirring"responses don't help with that.

[Zacherof]

Oh...I understand perfectly WHY it's being done, but my point is wouldn't it be more appropriate for this punishment to be handed out in the training arena. In essence the game host is DECIDING something that should be determined by the pilot. I Would agree with you (in part) about moving your controls too rapid would make you plane plummet, but ONLY death at low altitude. If I had ample altitude during a "Rapid Move Event", then I would be able to pull out of a flat spin OR stall in time. Point being at least I could move my controls in order to TRY and recover or dodge an oncoming adversary. Certain death could be avoided where as control surfaces COULD be used and not rendered locked in the position. By not being able to at least MOVE your controls you are set up in a straight line shot for your opponent OR according to the position you were locked, you may be locked into the down position and then a compression event occurs. SO....I can't agree with you on most of what you said. Thanks for your comment though.

Please elaborAte on the flat spin. I'm curios as to how you do it.

[wardog19]

I guess this is my first post. I have a beef with the "punishment" that is rendered during gameplay by the "moving my controls so rapidly" control lockup message. I thought the goal for this game is realism in gameplay.  If I were in a heated dogfight with an opponent in WW2, and my controls were to lock up for 4 to 5 seconds, then I am surely a dead man. If we are going to lay out punishment for moving a control too fast, then do that in the training arena. If I have to throw my airplane to the side quickly, then I don't want to be getting a death demerit for trying to move too quickly. I think that certain death by game host judgment is a bit out of place in the main arena. Train the pilots in the training arena not the main battle when a control lockup means certain death. Not cool.   

Concerning the game, Hitech and other's have given an explanation for the message.
When I first began playing a year ago, I saw the message often whether in "combat" or just flying around. Subsequently after an explanation of the message,I reasonably accepted and adapted to avoid such actions(rapid stick stirring).

Concerning "training pilots in training arena not the main battle": Have you had a session(s) with an AH Trainer in the TA? I myself have not, but, I would believe that they would 'train'(instruct) well enough to negate actions that cause the message. Whether you have or not had a trainer, it would seem that concerning your "beef" that you believe in and/or want the ability to fly in any manner you wish without a consequence. Many inexperienced and experienced pilot's have found themselves in trouble when doing something beyond the flight characteristics and capability of an aircraft. Whether in combat or everyday flying that applies.

[danny76]

In my experience it's usually when people are trying to make a shot that they lock up.
All the "stop stick stirring"responses don't help with that.

I wasn't trying to be obtuse. Just that the OP in this thread and in the previous thread on the same subject both mention specifically that they get the message when saddled up by an opponent, and the subsequent controll lock up gets them killed.

[FLS]

I wasn't trying to be obtuse. Just that the OP in this thread and in the previous thread on the same subject both mention specifically that they get the message when saddled up by an opponent, and the subsequent controll lock up gets them killed.

I don't see where the OP specified that he was defensive prior to the control lock. Did I read it too fast? When I used to lock up my controls it never happened defensively. It was always from trying to grab a shot from a bad setup or save a stall.  In any case, you can be defensive and lock your controls without stick stirring so I think it's more of an unwarranted accusation then a proper inference.

[trigger2]

If I were in a heated dogfight with an opponent in WW2, and my controls were to lock up for 4 to 5 seconds, then I am surely a dead man.

Should you have actually moved your controls in the manner that you're speaking would have rendered you a sitting duck, plummeting faster and faster towards earth in a lovely stall created by disturbing the airflow over your wings forcing a lack of lift situation.
If you want to generate the same result, grab a corsair, turn off stall limiter, get slow, yank back on the stick in a climbing turn, and rudder down hard.
There you go.

Regards,
Trig