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Offline guncrasher

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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 04:50:29 PM »
who cares about score? Most guys seem to get off on the "you shot down ........"
this should be removed from the game, they want to land 2 kills and get a wtg matey, hence their dash to ack.
twice today i had  p51 firing from 2k till I jinked past him and then ran immediately to  :bheadack

if you dont care about score then why does it bother you who lands what and when?  or you just upset because the ack killed you while trying to chase some guy into the ack?

you cant force people to play the way you want.  I think there's a way to turn off system messages.

but anyway I dont think it would be ok for akak to get credit for all the ack kills in the game :bolt:.


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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 05:20:35 PM »
I think the idea is players should not be rewarded for NOT fighting in a combat simulator.. I agree with the idea..
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 07:26:10 PM »
I think the idea is players should not be rewarded for NOT fighting in a combat simulator.. I agree with the idea..
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 08:31:58 PM »
What kind of message do you want when the ack that kills you was from a human player in a manned gun?

About the only useful thing I see auto ack for anymore, is to daily reeducate knights to the fact that their fighters aren't in god mode. Knights don't hide in their ack because the bish and rooks at least understand deacking a field to make it easier to get at the uppers. Knights think auto ack is there to play doge ball with while trying to vulch uppers. Eventually they kill their own CAP on an enemy field by loosing the dodge ball game to the auto ack. There ain't a face palm big enough anymore to help you while watching this kind of a farce.
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 08:33:33 PM »
or just don't chase them into the ack.
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2013, 09:22:54 PM »
I like that game! I win like.....never :bhead

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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2013, 09:24:36 PM »
or just don't chase them into the ack.

^this

If you chase an enemy into their ack and fly around in it in an attempt to score a kill...That enemy deserves the kill when you are destroyed.  
Ack is very easy to destroy.  But I guess it is easier to complain about it rather than to disable it. :old:

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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2013, 09:27:53 PM »
I think the idea is players should not be rewarded for NOT fighting in a combat simulator.. I agree with the idea..


kappa gets it and has explained it for anybody who still doesn't get Danny's angle

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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2013, 09:31:05 PM »
My Idea  and philosophy in kombat is fly to live. So I've that guy gets hurt while flying in my ack, I'll finish him off. If I'm losing and there's ack, I'm going to use it as an advantage. Now if I have to fly a sector, screw that, I'll duke it out.
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2013, 09:39:45 PM »
Check fighter ranks for the one guy with more than 20 kills (when it happens) and only 483 pts for damage. That's the guy causing the frustration.
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2013, 01:51:18 AM »
if you dont care about score then why does it bother you who lands what and when?  or you just upset because the ack killed you while trying to chase some guy into the ack?

you cant force people to play the way you want.  I think there's a way to turn off system messages.

but anyway I dont think it would be ok for akak to get credit for all the ack kills in the game :bolt:.


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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2013, 03:44:01 AM »
Have you seen my score? I rank in the bottom few for every single category.  mostly because I am poor at this game, also because I get stuck in. Whilst I understand that I cannot change the way others choose to play(which is always the textbook response to complaints about timid gameplay) if I get into a decent fight and work hard for the upper hand, it is not unreasonable to be irked when the guy breaks off and dives vertically for his nearest ack.

totally understand if you fight and get the upper hand but what do you expect the other guy to do? just roll up and die?  he'll do whatever it is to stay alive.    :salute


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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2013, 03:57:00 AM »
Thats a fantastic idea Danny + 1

I doubt it would be implemented though, I think you would be surprised how many 'kills' are awarded to players for AI kills and how much of the fighting in the MA is based around ack of one sort or another.

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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2013, 07:01:29 AM »
What you are saying is that a player doesn't deserve a kill for bringing you into ack, but yet you think a player does deserve a kill for taking you into a canyon, or mountains, or trees, or water. . . or for damaging you within an inch of death and dragging you to thirty of his friends?

I sort of agree, but very much don't agree also. The 'sort of' part is about how much this is going to pass muster. You know I do a lot of escorting of bombers. When over an enemy field 90% of everyone I shoot takes damage and immediately dives to the field. By the same token you want to deny an ack hugger a kill I must ask that you give me the kills that dive to ack and safety even when I don't follow. Bet you go for that one in a big way!
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Re: Properly Credit Ack Kills
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2013, 01:36:05 PM »
Read that 3 times. Of course if someone escapes you and lands then you shouldnt get a kill. If they die having been damaged by your guns, you get the kill anyhow. If I die fighting a guy in canyons then thats just fine as long as he put up a fight and squarely beat me. I am simply tired of the pervading trait of using ack as a primary weapon rather than guns and acm :old:
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