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Offline hotcoffe

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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2013, 03:37:02 AM »
instead of controlling fleet i like to see a position for fire control , which has advanced optics etc... and communicate more accurate range readings to 8inc and 5' gunners  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_gun_fire-control_system

For the US, the brains were first provided by the Mark 1A Fire Control Computer which was an electro-mechanical analog ballistic computer that provided accurate firing solutions which could automatically control one or more gun mounts against stationary, or moving targets on the surface or in the air. This gave American forces a technological advantage in World War II against the Japanese who did not develop this technology, and still used visual correction of shots with colored splashes. Digital computers would not be adopted for this purpose by the US until the mid-1970s. However, it must be emphasized that all analogue AA fire control systems had severe limitations, and even the USN Mk 37 required nearly 1000 rounds of 5" mechanical fuze ammunition per kill, even in late 1944
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2013, 07:19:31 PM »
Glad to see so many replying to this because it would be awesome to get alittle more navy in the game.
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2013, 09:49:02 PM »
It's an untapped market IMHO.  But why do I know?




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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2013, 11:37:49 AM »
-1 to insta-uberfleets. Sorry.

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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2013, 12:37:11 PM »
I'd like to see something like this added, but also see some issues in terms of play balance.  If/when subs are added, something like this would seem to be a necessity.  While tincans were indeed operationally grouped into flotillas or squadrons, they did often operate independently on the tactical level.  So I think they should be spawn-able from either a fleet or a port, like PTs are. I think there would have to be some sort of limit on the number that could be spawned from a given fleet/port, and within a given time period; simply perking the heck out of them would not be enough to prevent abuse, IMO.  Part of the problem of course is in the nature of how it's treated by the code.  If it is treated like a single-ship fleet, we can't directly control the helm (speed and direction) as we can with the PT boat.  This makes deploying torpedoes from it very difficult at best. If, on the other hand, it is treated in the code like a big PT boat, we get direct control, but don't get auto-ack, and are limited to only one other person gunning with us.  I'd prefer the latter choice, if we're assuming we have to live with the current limitations in the code.

On a side note, along with torps, I'd want the option to make smoke, since this was a vital defensive ability of the tincans in surface actions.
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2013, 08:57:01 PM »
Id suggest putting timers on it and theyed obviously be perked but maybe a port can hold up to 5 at a time and once theyved been used regrow over 10 minute or 15 minute periods till back to full. And when not in use at a port would be docked and able to be bombed and be down for 15 minutes like a hanger.
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 03:07:03 PM »
Id suggest putting timers on it and theyed obviously be perked but maybe a port can hold up to 5 at a time and once theyved been used regrow over 10 minute or 15 minute periods till back to full. And when not in use at a port would be docked and able to be bombed and be down for 15 minutes like a hanger.

+1 for thought given on how to limit their use whilst providing another tactical target at ports... As for cruisers.... Limit of one due to the numerous gun positions that can be occupied... (would this mean more than one gunner/observer?)
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2013, 06:11:42 PM »
-1 to insta-uberfleets. Sorry.
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2013, 08:13:19 PM »
+1 for thought given on how to limit their use whilst providing another tactical target at ports... As for cruisers.... Limit of one due to the numerous gun positions that can be occupied... (would this mean more than one gunner/observer?)


Id say no but id like for the ships captain and gunner to be able to both occupy a separate gun at once for alittle more fun.
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2013, 09:50:05 PM »
partypooper.... :P

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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2013, 08:13:02 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2013, 03:05:31 PM »
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2013, 08:14:58 AM »
+1
I'm glad somebody else keeps this on the wishlist besides me.. :aok
Japanese DD in my opinion, but not the Akizuki super DD, too few of them made!
Something more like Kagero, that had many sisters in the class..
But for the sake of expediency and appearances, just use the Fletchers we have
in the game now.. Or the old twin turret DDs that used to be in game..
Look kinda dorky to have IJN destroyers covering American LVTs..

Overall tho.. I think this should be part of a whole Naval Overhaul..
Including Separate invasion fleets, and LCTs to land tanks on the shore!

Would be cool, if the BB had a "Navy Department" to advance these issues.. 
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2013, 12:51:39 PM »
We can only hope adding them tho would definitely change a lot of battle plans in the main arena and who knows maybe hitech can then add its the best ww2 sea battles as well lol.
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Re: Destroyers or cruisers u control like pt boats
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2013, 09:31:01 PM »
I wouldn't mind taking the Graf Spee or Bismark for a spin, or a uboat.

If controlled by only one player, like upping a plane, maybe it would aim from the tower, then click 1,2,3,4 etc to fire each turret, with. A light to say when each is reloaded.

Have them cost a lot of perks, what about if suddenly have to log? A cruise could take hours,  and have to be fair to the guys hunting it too. If it wasn't player owned like a normal plane, then pass it to another player? Assuming the player would still lose perks so they don't get spy abused somehow. Maybe have player rank with each country.

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