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Offline LCAMerciful

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM »
Don't take this the wrong way as I'm not downplaying the importance of riding gear but absolutely NOTHING can help protect you more than having good Situational Awareness.  Personally I think the guy wearing only shorts and a t-shirt with good SA is in a much safer place than the guy wearing the best safety gear in the world who is oblivious to what's going on around him.

You HAVE to teach yourself to have a kind of "Radar Sense" in that you always know what's going on around you.  As others have already stated it is extremely important that you understand that people won't see you and you have to be prepared to react in these cases by predicting the other drivers' actions.  If you can't do this then your chances of getting hurt or killed goes up dramatically.

When I was young and almost old enough to drive my dad would constantly bombard me with questions in the car... stuff like.. what kind of car is that?  What are they going to do next?  Simply put he taught me to be observant of other drivers' behaviors before I was even behind the wheel myself!  I don't know if it's some kind of sixth sense or just keen observational skills but I've always been able to tell when a car is about to change lanes.. or do something stupid.. or what not.

But definitely... learn to drive a car first.  You need to learn to obey traffic laws and to drive safely without having to think about it BEFORE you even start to think about riding a bike.  Decisions on a motorcycle HAVE to be made instantly.  Even a split second delay can mean the difference between life and death.  You also need to learn to maintain control of a car under adverse conditions.  Take the car out on a wide open area on a real wet or even snowy lot.  Don't be afraid to get a little aggressive... you want to lose control and more importantly learn how to get control back.  If you find yourself panicking every time the car does something you don't like then you're definitely not ready to be on a bike.

Also all of the safety equipment in the world isn't going to help you at highway speeds.  If you wreck your bike at 70mph.. you're dead.. plain and simple.  The good news is that at highway speed (on the highway) traffic is much more predictable.  You typically don't get intersections or traffic lights at those speeds.. or oncoming traffic.  Traffic with slower speeds however is much less predictable.  This is where cars will come out of no where and this is where you're much more likely to get in a wreck.  At 30mph if you get in a wreck there's a good chance you'll escape life-altering injury (and death) by having the appropriate safety equipment, HOWEVER learning how to avoid these situations is much, MUCH more important IMO.

And a few things to remember on a bike:

1> You NEVER have the right of way.  Even if you have a green light and cross traffic is completely stopped you still have to be on high alert.  NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING!

2> Car VS Bike the car will win EVERY TIME.  Don't even try to get into this battle.  Even if they are being a complete jerk you have to give in to them.  Put your pride aside and put your safety first.

3> Learn where the horn button is and DON'T BE AFRAID TO USE IT.  Since people have trouble seeing bikes it's important that you make them aware of your presence, however DON'T RELY ON THE HORN to save your butt.  You still have to take evasive action.  Never assume they are going to hear you either.

4> Don't ride if you're tired, buzzed, stoned, ill, or even if you're just not quite "with it".  It's imperative that you be alert and on the ball when you're on a bike.  If you're not feeling your best your chances of getting hurt or killed goes up dramatically.

5> Don't be stupid.  Wheelies, burn outs, balls-to-the-wall speeds and showoffing is for the track and has no business on public roads.  Yes we all know it's fun to get a little aggressive on a bike from time to time but please use common sense and good judgement here.  Yeah I hit 90 on the intestate on the way home today.  I "floored it" from a red light on the on-ramp just because I was in the mood for a little thrill.  BUT at least there was very light traffic and no one in front of me.  If there was any congestion at all or I didn't feel like the environment in front of me wasn't safe I would have ridden extremely conservatively.

Riding can be a very rewarding and fun experience but it's almost NEVER more cost effective than driving a car, and if you're in an extremely urban environment you may be better off with an electric bicycle or a scooter if you're looking at this from a convenience standpoint.

Get fluent with driving a car first.  THEN take a course.  THEN start small with a "disposable" used bike and once you outgrow that you'll have the experience behind your belt to handle something bigger.. and nicer.  Also make sure you have insurance - not just for the bike but for yourself too.  Many states require insurance companies to offer medical coverage with even basic motorcycle policies so make sure you take advantage of that as it's not that expensive.

Also it's inevitable.  Even the best driver in the world can sometimes find himself (or herself I suppose) in an unavoidable situation.  If (probably more like when) this happens you're probably not going to simply walk away from the scene.  Be ready for that.  The same is true with driving a car but the risk of severe injury and death is much much less.

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2013, 11:21:24 AM »
another moto-tard

 Ha.... thats what I want now ...I need to get out of the couch postion and sit more straight up. Kills my back.

I rode one the other day they are Bad Motard.



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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2013, 01:09:05 AM »
^^^^^ Thats ok..

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only messing about, seems like some real good advice coming from folks...take it slow Bro
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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2013, 01:14:29 AM »
Ha.... thats what I want now ...I need to get out of the couch postion and sit more straight up. Kills my back.

I rode one the other day they are Bad Motard.

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2013, 12:24:21 PM »
I will personally say that you can survive a crash at 70mph with proper gear. I was in the right lane of a three lane highway going a few mph over the speed limit 75 as opposed to 70( keep the flow coming at you ) a Honda civic punk kid changed lanes from for left straight over to make a turn and smoke my bike i flew over the hood hit the highway slid into the ditch and cane to rest. I broke my collerbone on impact with the highway other then that no road rash and walked away. Moral of the story cars don't see you and in this case he did something i did not expect. So like stated previously pay attention and be safe gear saved my life it could save yours
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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2014, 08:53:58 PM »
I know this is an old thread but felt like posting after losing another friend today due to a motorcycle accident. Car pulled in front of him, he tried to avoid and hit the right front quarter. Sadly, his son is seriously injured and was airlifted to the best trauma center in the area.

If you're a new rider, remember Situational Awareness is absolutely necessary when riding. Every thing that moves is a threat and should be treated as such. Safety gear saved me once and I won't board a motorcycle without a helmet and pants as a minimum.

P.S. Couple years ago I noticed a bike coming down the road in heavy traffic with his headlight flashing and it really got my attention. I decided to install one of these and found such an item on the internet named Biker Buddy. Not affiliated with them, but highly suggest installing one of these or something similar on your motorcycle to help get peoples attention.

Before this, I've had people pull out in front of me while speaking on their cell phones. Thing is, two of them were looking directly at me and still pulled out. I was off the throttle on both occasions and was able to avoid hitting them. If you're riding in an area with background clutter such as mailboxes, shade etc. you can blend into the background drivers are looking at. A flashing headlight will get their attention the vast majority of the time.

Be safe....

FGBullet

« Last Edit: December 13, 2014, 09:07:19 PM by FGBullet »

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2014, 09:03:22 PM »
Sorry to hear that Bullet.


P.S. Couple years ago I noticed a bike coming down the road in heavy traffic with his headlight flashing and it really got my attention. I decided to install one of these and found such an item on the internet named Biker Buddy. Not affiliated with them, but highly suggest installing one of these or something similar on your motorcycle to help get peoples attention.

Not sure how common it is, but my bike (2009 Suzuki GSXR) came with a sort of trigger on the left handle bar for this. So, rather than having to use your thumb to flick the normal light switch, you can pull the trigger to flash the light while still maintaining grip on the handlebars. It's not a constant flicker, like I think you're talking about, but still quite useful in getting peoples' attention when passing or in an emergency. Yes, similar to just flashing lights in a car... but it makes people think a little when they see only a single headlight flashing instead of two.
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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2014, 03:50:43 AM »
I have known a lot of motorcycle riders in my life (and have done a very large amount of off-road motorcycling in my life, but not on-road).  Only a couple of the on-road motorcyclists I've known haven't had some incident where they could have been killed or seriously injured.  Most of those incidents weren't their fault -- but that doesn't matter.

You'd be especially foolish to get a motorcycle when you aren't even an experienced driver yet.

The term some emergency-room physicians use for motorcycles is "donorcycles".

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2014, 06:36:22 AM »
Not sure how common it is, but my bike (2009 Suzuki GSXR) came with a sort of trigger on the left handle bar for this.

Yeah they're standard equipment on most bikes.  Cars have the same control but not on a trigger.  My ZX-10R has twin, horizontally mounted headlights, one is the dip beam the other main beam.....the dip beam is hard wired and can't be turned off so when riding on a motor/freeway, if there's some lane hogger in the fast lane then as I approach (cos believe me, I'm going faster) I'll use the flasher as it sorta looks like I've got two headlights flashing alternately.....kinda like the Police vehicles do in this country.  My bike is bright blue so the driver sees me coming and 3 words pop into his head "Blue flashing lights"....and he gets out of the way.  It's amazing how often it works.

Anyway, yes very sorry to hear that Bullet.  One day I'll be joining your mate I'm sure but it'll be so much better arriving at the Pearly Gates in a cloud of tyre smoke and flames than aged 90 with a catheter and an oxygen tank.
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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2014, 09:45:15 AM »
Don't ride with your mouth open.

I did that once and a bumblebee flew into my mouth.  Suddenly I felt this furry thing on my tounge and as I spit it out it stung my bottom lip swelling it like a golf ball.

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2014, 12:15:57 PM »
Don't ride with your mouth open.

I did that once and a bumblebee flew into my mouth.  Suddenly I felt this furry thing on my tounge and as I spit it out it stung my bottom lip swelling it like a golf ball.

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2014, 02:00:09 PM »
I know this is an old thread but felt like posting after losing another friend today due to a motorcycle accident. Car pulled in front of him, he tried to avoid and hit the right front quarter. Sadly, his son is seriously injured and was airlifted to the best trauma center in the area.

If you're a new rider, remember Situational Awareness is absolutely necessary when riding. Every thing that moves is a threat and should be treated as such. Safety gear saved me once and I won't board a motorcycle without a helmet and pants as a minimum.

P.S. Couple years ago I noticed a bike coming down the road in heavy traffic with his headlight flashing and it really got my attention. I decided to install one of these and found such an item on the internet named Biker Buddy. Not affiliated with them, but highly suggest installing one of these or something similar on your motorcycle to help get peoples attention.

Before this, I've had people pull out in front of me while speaking on their cell phones. Thing is, two of them were looking directly at me and still pulled out. I was off the throttle on both occasions and was able to avoid hitting them. If you're riding in an area with background clutter such as mailboxes, shade etc. you can blend into the background drivers are looking at. A flashing headlight will get their attention the vast majority of the time.

Be safe....

FGBullet



Before installing one, check the local laws. Some communities have a law stating no flashing/oscillating of the headlights (think wig wags in emergency vehicles). Even on a single headlamp bike, a device that continually flashes high/low beams is could be deemed illegal in some places and PD will ticket for it, especially in this part of the state
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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2014, 02:08:18 PM »
Don't ride with your mouth open.

I did that once and a bumblebee flew into my mouth.  Suddenly I felt this furry thing on my tounge and as I spit it out it stung my bottom lip swelling it like a golf ball.

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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2014, 03:03:59 PM »
I read this old thread with interest. I was especially surprised that the OP hadn't driven a car yet. I think a lot of inexperienced bikers don't realize how easily they can disappear into the background clutter or distraction. It doesn't take a drunk, a teenager, or angry dude to kill you. The most responsible people in the world will turn right in front of you because they don't see you. When you are on a bike you can see everything, you are out in the world so to speak, whereas in a car your a bit like watching tv from a couch. The world would probably be safer for bikers if everybody had to try riding a bike and every body was familiar with a near miss while driving a car. To the original poster I say learn to drive a car first and see what its like so you can realize its limitations and really not depend on it to behave rationally around you on a motorcycle.
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Re: Planning on riding a motorcycle
« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2014, 03:07:50 PM »
Too bad the original poster cant read this since he is banned
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