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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 07:14:13 PM »
I would like to see these added too :)

DAP Beaufighter Mk 21      Heavy Fighter/Attack
CaC Ca-13 Boomerang      Fighter/Jabo/Spotter   Australia

Mavag Haja II         Fighter         Hungary

I.A.R. 80/81         Fighter         Romania

Ikarus/Rogožarski IK-3      Fighter         Yugoslavia

Avia B-135         Fighter         Bulgaria

PZL.37B         Med/Hvy Bomber   
PZL.23B Karaś          Attack/Light Bomber   Poland

VL Myrsky         Fighter         Finland <their own plane>

Fokker G.I          HvyFighter
Fokker T.V.         Bomber
Fokker D.XXI         Fighter         Netherlands


More Country's the Better
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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 07:14:46 PM »
Well you have done well with the Hole in your head..

Aw, you got offended. I have five, actually. You should, too, but I can't speak for you.  :)

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 07:15:28 PM »
Aw, you got offended. I have five, actually. You should, too, but I can't speak for you.  :)

I have you beat by far  :neener: :rofl
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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 07:15:41 PM »
I would like to see these added too :)

DAP Beaufighter Mk 21      Heavy Fighter/Attack
CaC Ca-13 Boomerang      Fighter/Jabo/Spotter   Australia

Mavag Haja II         Fighter         Hungary

I.A.R. 80/81         Fighter         Romania

Ikarus/Rogožarski IK-3      Fighter         Yugoslavia

Avia B-135         Fighter         Bulgaria

PZL.37B         Med/Hvy Bomber   
PZL.23B Karaś          Attack/Light Bomber   Poland

VL Myrsky         Fighter         Finland <their own plane>

Fokker G.I          HvyFighter
Fokker T.V.         Bomber
Fokker D.XXI         Fighter         Netherlands


More Country's the Better


Whoa. I'm sure you would.

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 07:16:32 PM »
I have you beat by far  :neener: :rofl

Well, I didn't count a pierced ear. But since I outgrew wearing ear jewelry .....  ;)

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 07:16:47 PM »
Whoa. I'm sure you would.

Better than the biplane wiki :)

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 07:17:56 PM »
Well, I didn't count a pierced ear. But since I outgrew wearing ear jewelry .....  ;)
hey now, i wear an earring. don' be dissin on the earrings...
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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2013, 07:19:22 PM »
Well, I didn't count the pierced ears. But since I outgrew wearing ear jewelry .....  ;)
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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2013, 07:19:33 PM »
Better than the biplane wiki :)

I dunno. I don't think either are good betting odds. I built the potential
ac list based on what I think could be most likely.  :)

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2013, 07:21:44 PM »
Mavag Haja II         Fighter         Hungary
The Mávag Héja was an import version of the Re-2001 fitted with the hungarian copy of a Gnöme-Rhöne french radial - the same engine whats italian copy was used on the original Re-2001. Those planes looked and performed pretty much alike, im almost sure the hungarian skins could be used on the modelled "original" Re-2001.

It was a very slow aircraft with the top speed of ~509km/h. Was basically a poor, much outdated design in '42.
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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2013, 07:25:56 PM »
I dunno. I don't think either are good betting odds. I built the potential
ac list based on what I think could be most likely.  :)

 France should absolutly be represented and I think Australia should aswell.  2 Planes can add 2 country's D520 and the Boomer ...Think about it  ;) Common Arlo get behind it and help get 2 country's in the game.


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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2013, 07:39:03 PM »
France should absolutly be represented and I think Australia should aswell.  2 Planes can add 2 country's D520 and the Boomer ...Think about it  ;) Common Arlo get behind it (Image removed from quote.) and help get 2 country's in the game.

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No offense (and there are some pretty neat French planes and all) but outside the Battle of France, those planes were captured and relegated to being trainers and auxiliary.
They had very little, if any, influence on the war. The Boomerang could be added under the British plane set, being commonwealth equipment. Finnish aircraft might be added
with the Winter War in mind. Hungarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian, Bulgarian, Polish and Dutch aircraft would be mere novelty.

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2013, 08:16:38 PM »
No offense (and there are some pretty neat French planes and all) but outside the Battle of France, those planes were captured and relegated to being trainers and auxiliary.

Those planes also saw combat outside of France in the Mideast with the Vichy French in North Africa and Syria/Palestine.

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2013, 08:26:50 PM »
Those planes also saw combat outside of France in the Mideast with the Vichy French in North Africa and Syria/Palestine.

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Operation Torch: the last battle for the Vichy French air force (8–10 November 1942)

The last major battles against the Allied forces, in which the Vichy French air force took part, took place during Operation Torch, launched on 8 November 1942 as the Allied invasion of North Africa. Facing the U.S. Navy task force headed for Morocco, consisting of the carriers Ranger, Sangamon, Santee and Suwannee, were, in part, Vichy squadrons based at Marrakech, Meknčs, Agadir, Casablanca and Rabat, which between them could muster some 86 fighters and 78 bombers. Overall, the aircraft may have been old compared to the F4F Wildcats of the U.S. Navy, yet they were still dangerous and capable in the hands of combat veterans who had seen action against both the Germans and the British since the start of the war.

F4Fs attacked the airfield at Rabat-Salé around 07.30 on the 8th and destroyed nine LeO 451 bombers of GB I/22, while a transport unit's full complement of various types was almost entirely wiped out. At Casablanca, SBD dive-bombers succeeded in damaging the French battle-cruiser, Jean Bart, and F4Fs strafed the bombers of GB I/32 at Camp Cazes airfield, some of which exploded as they were ready for take-off with bombs already on board, thus ensuring their mission never went ahead. The U.S. Navy did not have it all their own way, though, as several F4F pilots were shot down and taken prisoner.

The day's victory tally of enemy aircraft shot down by the French fighter pilots totaled seven confirmed and three probable, yet their losses were considered heavy – five pilots killed, four wounded and 13 aircraft destroyed either in combat or on the ground – when one considers that GC II/5, based in Casablanca, had lost only two pilots killed during the whole of the six-week campaign in France two years before. In the meantime, F4Fs of U.S. Navy Fighter Squadron VF-41 from the USS Ranger strafed and destroyed (ironically) three U.S.-built Douglas DB-7 bombers of GB I/32, which were being refueled and rearmed at Casablanca, leaving a mere three others undamaged.

Nevertheless, having been reinforced by two other bombers, GB I/32 carried out a bombing mission against the beaches at Safi, where more U.S. soldiers were landing, the next morning. One of the bombers was damaged and attempted to make a forced-landing, only it exploded upon contact with the ground, killing the entire crew. Fighter unit GC I/5 lost four pilots in combat that day (9 November) and it was on that same day that Adjudant (Warrant Officer) Bressieux had the distinction of becoming the last pilot in the Vichy French air force to claim a combat victory, in this case an F4F of VF-9. Shortly afterwards, 13 F4Fs attacked the airfield at Médiouna and destroyed a total of 11 French aircraft, including six from GC II/5.

On the morning of 10 November 1942, the Vichy French air force units in Morocco had a mere 37 combat-ready fighters and 40 bombers left to face the might of the U.S. Navy F4Fs. Médiouna was attacked once again and several of the fighters were left burning, while two reconnaissance Potez were shot down, one by an F4F and the other by an SBD over the airfield at Chichaoua, where three F4Fs would later destroy four more Potez in a strafing attack.

Ultimately, the presence of Vichy France in North Africa as an ally of the Germans came to an end (ironically) on Armistice Day, 11 November 1942, when General Nogučs, the commander-in-chief of the Vichy armed forces, requested a cease-fire – although that did not stop a unit of U.S. Navy aircraft attacking the airfield at Marrakech and destroying several French aircraft, apparently on the initiative of the unit's commander. Once the cease-fire request was accepted, the war between the Allies and the Vichy French came to an end after two and a half years of what was termed "fratricidal" fighting.

"Torch" had resulted in a victory for the Allies, even though it was fair to say that the French had no choice but to engage the Americans, otherwise the Americans would (and did) engage them since they were technically enemies. As a result, 12 air force and 11 navy pilots lost their lives in the final four days of combat between (Vichy) France and the Allies during World War II. Barely two weeks later, the Germans invaded the then-unoccupied zone of metropolitan France and ordered the complete dissolution of the Vichy French armed forces on 1 December 1942. Those units then not under Vichy control would then be free to join with their Free French colleagues to fight the common enemy: Nazi Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_French_Air_Force

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Re: What the AHII aircraft list would look like with these 14 additions
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2013, 08:49:14 PM »
I thought 14 was a pretty high number to recommend. I see that as 2-3 years of work for HTC.
Pulling up Wiki and adding every other plane found that ever flew during WWII makes trying
to develop a short term addition list quite impractical. It would look something like:

Ambrosini SAI.207    1942     Italy
   
Ansaldo A.120    1925     Italy    Italy, Lithuania

Arsenal VG-33    1940     France
   
Avia B-135    1941     Czechoslovakia    Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria

Bell P-63 Kingcobra    1942     United States    U.S., USSR

Bloch MB.151/MB.152/MB.155    1940     France    France, Greece, Romania

Boeing P-26 Peashooter    1933     United States    U.S., China, Philippines

Breda Ba.27    1933     Italy    China

CAC Boomerang[3]    1943     Australia    

Caudron C.714    1940     France    France, Finland, Poland

Curtiss P-36 Hawk/Mohawk    1938     United States    U.S., Brazil, Finland, France, Netherlands, Norway, Thailand, UK

Curtiss-Wright CW-21 Demon    1939     United States    China, Netherlands

Dewoitine D.500/D.510    1935     France    France, China

Dewoitine D.520    1940     France    France, Bulgaria, Italy

Fiat G.50    1938     Italy    Italy, Finland, Croatia

Fiat G.55    1943     Italy  
    
Fokker D.XXI    1936     Netherlands    Netherlands, Denmark, Finland

Grumman F8F Bearcat[4]    1945     United States

Heinkel He 112    1937     Germany    Germany, Hungary, Romania

IAR 80    1942     Romania    

Ikarus IK-2 parasol monoplane    1935     Yugoslavia    Yugoslavia, Croatia

Kawasaki Ki-100    1945     Japan
   
Koolhoven F.K.58    1940     Netherlands    Netherlands, France

Lavochkin-Gorbunov-Gudkov LaGG-1    1940     Soviet Union
   
Lavochkin-Gorbunov-Gudkov LaGG-3    1941     Soviet Union    USSR, Finland

Loire 46 parasol monoplane    1936     France
    
Macchi C.200    1939     Italy
    
MÁVAG Héja    1941     Hungary
    
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-1    1940     Soviet Union
    
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3    1941     Soviet Union
    
Mitsubishi A5M[5]    1936     Japan
    
Morane-Saulnier M.S.406    1939     France    France, Croatia, Finland, Italy, Poland

Nakajima A6M2-N floatplane fighter    1942     Japan
    
Nakajima Ki-27    1937     Japan    Japan, Manchukuo, Thailand

Nakajima Ki-43    1941     Japan    Japan, Manchukuo, Thailand

North American P-64[6]    1940     United States
   
PZL P.7 parasol monoplane    1933     Poland
   
PZL P.11 parasol monoplane    1934     Poland    Poland, Romania

PZL P.24 parasol monoplane    1936     Poland    Poland, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania

Reggiane Re.2000    1940     Italy    Italy, Hungary

Reggiane Re.2001    1941     Italy
   
Reggiane Re.2005    1943     Italy
   
Republic P-43 Lancer    1941     United States    U.S., Australia, China

Rogožarski IK-3    1940     Yugoslavia
   
Seversky P-35/J 9    1937     United States    Sweden

VL Myrsky    1943     Finland
   
Vultee P-66 Vanguard    1941     United States    U.S., China

Yakovlev Yak-1    1940     Soviet Union    USSR, France

Yakovlev Yak-3    1944     Soviet Union    USSR, France

Yakovlev Yak-7/Yak-7B    1942     Soviet Union    USSR, France

(Then the heavies)

Bell YFM-1 Airacuda[2] flying cruiser    1940     United States
    
Blackburn Roc turret fighter    1939     United Kingdom
    
Blackburn Skua fighter/dive bomber    1938     United Kingdom
    
Boulton Paul Defiant turret fighter    1939     United Kingdom    UK, Canada

Bristol Beaufighter    1940     United Kingdom    UK, Australia, Canada, U.S.

Bristol Blenheim night fighter    1937     United Kingdom
    
Dornier Do 215 night fighter    1939     Germany
    
Dornier Do 217 night fighter    1941     Germany
    
Dornier Do 335    1944     Germany
    
Douglas P-70/Havoc night fighter    1941     United States    U.S., UK

Fairey Firefly fleet fighter/dive bomber    1941     United Kingdom
    
Fairey Fulmar fleet fighter    1940     United Kingdom
    
Fokker G.I    1939     Netherlands
    
Grumman F7F Tigercat night fighter    1944     United States
    
Heinkel He 219 night fighter    1943     Germany
    
IMAM Ro.57    1943     Italy
    
Junkers Ju 388 night fighter    1944     Germany
    
Kawasaki Ki-45 night fighter    1942     Japan
    
Kawasaki Ki-102 twin engine fighter    1945     Japan
    
Messerschmitt Me 210    1943     Germany    Germany, Hungary

Mitsubishi Ki-109 bomber interceptor    1945     Japan
    
Nakajima J1N night fighter/interceptor    1942     Japan
    
Northrop P-61 Black Widow night fighter    1944     United States
    
Petlyakov Pe-3    1941     Soviet Union    USSR, Finland

Potez 630    1938     France    France, Greece, Romania

Westland Welkin high altitude interceptor[7]    1944     United Kingdom
    
Westland Whirlwind    1940     United Kingdom    

~~~~~~~~~~~And that's just mono-wing fighters.  :)
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