Author Topic: Why do we spend so much time talking about German aircraft? (Read 5655 times)

StSanta · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2001, 05:26:00 AM »

Heh Tempests are untouchable even for *dumb* pilots

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Effdub · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2001, 08:55:00 AM »

Straffo, your argument makes no sense to me. Even if the Me262 were a "symbol of an arrogant nation" it still is a pretty interesting design. Same goes for Dornier Do 335, Henschel HS-129, you name it... If the french had any interesting designs to offer I'm sure we'd like to see them too - but then again, they lost the war after two weeks (pretty arrogant to believe the maginot line would stop any attack, eh?).

I guess that's your real problem, not?

Same behaviour in another thread about Galland, Marseille and Hartmann, where you call them "untermenschen" whilst reffering to Rene Fonck as the only real ace.

I myself am german - I know all about the crimes committed by Germany from 1935-1945. The large majority of germans have leanrt their lesson well - they know that national pride can lead to disaster, but it seems that one has to lose a war to grasp this concept.

Funny thing is that France nowadays is the country that is considered to be arrogant by it's neighbors.

Well, that's what I believe is going on in your mind when you comment about anything german.

I myself just enjoy the game and would like to see more planes from any nation, without being blinded by national pride...

as far as Rene Fonck goes... he was a great pilot, just as Hartmann, Galland or Marseille.

The war ended in 1945 - France and Germany are both part of Europe - that should make us um, friends, no?

whatever,

Effdub

Nuclear Power may not be clean or safe, but it sure is the most expensive way to boil water...

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #17 on:** August 13, 2001, 09:05:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Ding_Hao:
German planes were some of the most interesting planes to ever roll off the assembly line.

Nope, Russia, Italy and Romania have by far more interesting aircraft.

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Originally posted by Ding_Hao:
And most of them look like murderous killers, not racers.

Kind of like the people they fought for?
-SW

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]

straffo · « **Reply #18 on:** August 13, 2001, 09:22:00 AM »

I feel sorry Effdub my post was harsh and stupid showing my bad side when I'm tired

I should refrain to post when in a bad mood

Btw I keep thinking that if in the early 30's French kicked Hitler butt it should have been better for a lot of people in Europe (German included)

The arrogant part was more in my mind directed (*) to the ding_hoax troll whos is currently "uber" poluting (IMO) this board.
But as I'm not a native english I often sound rude in my post whereas I just try to be ironic.
(*) and not directed to the citizen of Germany

For my post in the Galland and Marseille thread was a poor man troll attempt with lotsa more smilies than in the current post

btw did you notice they all have french name (*) ?.
(*) yep it's a troll

Personnaly I've nothing againt German people current or past (with some exception like the head of the Nazi party or Rudel for instance)
Neither do I have respect for some past of current French historic figure (Napoleon for exemple)

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France and Germany are both part of Europe - that should make us um, friends, no?

We are I've just an hawfull need of vacation ...

Frédéric
Currently humiliating himself in the BBS and in the MA with smurtz as handle ...

PS : last point just to sound a bit more arrogant we (the french) were the 1st to bomb Berlin ... yada yada nananere

Effdub · « **Reply #19 on:** August 13, 2001, 09:54:00 AM »

S! Straffo, I'm very happy that we have cleared this up

Actually, I agree with all your statements made in your second post.

Effdub

btw, I don't mind that the French were the first to bomb Berlin - but I guess the English, Americans or Russians may be offended that someone else beat them to that "honor"

straffo · « **Reply #20 on:** August 13, 2001, 10:09:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Effdub:
S! Straffo, I'm very happy that we have cleared this up

Actually, I agree with all your statements made in your second post.

Effdub

btw, I don't mind that the French were the first to bomb Berlin - but I guess the English, Americans or Russians may be offended that someone else beat them to that "honor"

I've to thank you as I should have left such a post without explanation ..

The good side is they never killed anyone in their attempt

It was quite an aventure some french airmen (with a suicidal tendancies

) used a former airliner (a farman 224) with a single 7.5 Machine gun (used through a window

) to drop bomb some * 50Kg over Berlin (through the same windows

)
In their 1st attempt the german were so surprised that they switched ON the light at the Berlin airport thinking it was a Luftansa aircraft

* I thing they bringed 4 or 6 50Kg bombs

Kieran · « **Reply #21 on:** August 13, 2001, 10:29:00 AM »

....pssst, Urchin. <whispers> "You aren't the only guy asking for a cheap Ta152..."

mrfish · « **Reply #22 on:** August 13, 2001, 10:34:00 AM »

well france was the arrogant world bad guy before 1880 and i still had a great time at le musee du louvre......the roccoco period is height of french arrogance and you don't see anybody bashing francois boucher for painting naked 12yr old girls. ah, how soon they forget.

german planes are just incredible examples out of history....appreciate them for what they are without all the political nonsense.(on both sides btw)

after all, japan never apologized for the rape of nanking, maybe we should boycott n1ks and wear lil' ribbons in outrage? now, there, i solved the n1k problem too and all before 9....

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funkedup · « **Reply #23 on:** August 13, 2001, 12:13:00 PM »

To answer Karnak: I think it's probably due to a high percentage of AHers with "alternative lifestyle choices".

Seriously, I agree with Nashwan 100%.

Hristo · « **Reply #24 on:** August 13, 2001, 04:54:00 PM »

Seriously, I'd be surprised if we don't get Spit XIV in 1.08.

It's time for that plane, despite the dweeb horde which will inevitably flock to it.

As for Tempest, it is a damn kickass plane. You have to be much much better than Temp pilot to beat it in a D-9. Luckily, we are getting a plane that was also met by Tempests in 1944-45. And it has no prop

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Ta 152 might be a great high alt interceptor, but it is in no way in Tempest class. I'd pick D-9 over it any day. Still, I believe G-10 is better for dealing with Temps, until Me 262 arrives.

German planeset is finally looking as 1944 planeset. US planeset was like that from the start. Brits, sadly, are lacking. They need Spit XIV and some LF/HF stuff.

P51H would be a bad joke. What would stop others from asking for Go 229 then ?

And yes, LW planes look best. And swastika looks good on planes.

[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: Hristo ]

DingHao2 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 13, 2001, 05:08:00 PM »

Most late war planes more or less specialized in a certain area: G-10 in speed, P-51D mostly in speed and range, a lil emphasis placed on maneuverability, P-47D-30 on firepower, La-7 in low-alt speed, ect., ect. The Spitfire Mk. XIV had good maneuverability, good speed, 'bout slightly above average firepower. It'll probably outclass most other planes in the current arena. I'd say, that unless (or until) the perk system be replaced by a rolling plane set, that we shouldn't get a XIV--the IX is already the 2nd most popular plane (if most it's the 2nd most popular plane, then shouldn't there be something that's good about it?).

Why I prefer German planes over planes of other countries? It's simply a matter of my opinion. (I'm no German nationalist.)

minus · « **Reply #26 on:** August 13, 2001, 05:16:00 PM »

yes and not

Lw whiners hmmmm what you will due you who not whine on any side when your prefered ride brink you only dead ??? u change plane

hmmm so then what is your prefered ride ??????????????????????????

a beter plane like other have ? /if yes who you vonder the others like to have then beter plane from you >?

hristo agree just 1 thing i em realy alergic on any symbols like svastica , red star white star blue star color trip

if any 1 of you have fighter soul why u not use the old one ,, must be a real Pig M...a F...e A....e who paint first time on plane national marks and armed it !!

Wlfgng · « **Reply #27 on:** August 13, 2001, 05:28:00 PM »

to the original question posed in this thread:

because they evoke something predatory in me (and others). They are quite simply.. the baddest looking aircraft from WWII...

besides... who cares

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #28 on:** August 13, 2001, 06:02:00 PM »

Here's the real answer:

Because every game to date has them modelled "poorly" or in the game's that have them modelled to the "LuftWaffe" fan base's liking... turns out to be Fighter Ace.
<G>
-SW

Urchin · « **Reply #29 on:** August 13, 2001, 06:06:00 PM »

WEll, the authority has now spoken. We all know why people talk about the German planes so much. Thanks a Bunch SWulfe! I always thought it was because I just liked them...