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Offline SAJ73

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2013, 07:29:16 AM »
My PW's come in spurts.  My success in this game also seems to come in spurts.

I think the game knows when my suck is especially pronounced and goes ahead and puts me out of my misery with a PW.  Just as well I suppose.   

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2013, 07:57:58 AM »
It is actually you repeating the same action over and over until you get a different result.

That's why it seems that it comes in spurts. If you don't take enough time to let your brain cool off between sorties, you interrupt the learning process and you repeat the same action again and again.

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2013, 08:52:06 AM »
It is actually you repeating the same action over and over until you get a different result.

That's why it seems that it comes in spurts. If you don't take enough time to let your brain cool off between sorties, you interrupt the learning process and you repeat the same action again and again.

So, you're saying I've boiled me brains??  :noid
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2013, 08:57:52 AM »
what I want to know is why can i turn my engine on and off and Fire my guns when I am blacked out?
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2013, 09:02:45 AM »
what I want to know is why can i turn my engine on and off and Fire my guns when I am blacked out?

Same reason why you used to be able to use controls / set auto trim while blacked out?
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2013, 09:10:37 AM »
what I want to know is why can i turn my engine on and off and Fire my guns when I am blacked out?

Because its awesome to wake up and see you've killed someone with your eyes closed  :old:

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2013, 09:36:51 AM »
Buffs are total deathstars even in noob hands let alone people who practice gunning on them. I could get kills with buffs easily even though just a couple of months ago I learned that you need to press N to fire all guns, joystick wasn't enough :D
seriously Ripley? if i had a nickel for every time you posted such nonsense i'd be rich...the 3 plane box formations are far from "deathstars". they are only a challenge for people who attack them improperly.

the "N" key does not fire all guns on the bombers...it only fires the guns which correspond to the gun position a person is using at the time.
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2013, 09:45:22 AM »
Still...I somehow doubt bomber formations in real life had the coordination that our laser gunners do.. There's next to zero dispersion before 500 yards and even if you attack from a high angle, chances are, a half second burst from the stream of 50 cals means you're bound to lose something.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2013, 10:06:54 AM »
seriously Ripley? if i had a nickel for every time you posted such nonsense i'd be rich...the 3 plane box formations are far from "deathstars". they are only a challenge for people who attack them improperly.

the "N" key does not fire all guns on the bombers...it only fires the guns which correspond to the gun position a person is using at the time.

They are deathstars compared to what they historically were. If I had a nickel every time you made a personal attack I'd be rich. You have issues, deal with them!
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2013, 10:34:29 AM »
Still...I somehow doubt bomber formations in real life had the coordination that our laser gunners do.. There's next to zero dispersion before 500 yards and even if you attack from a high angle, chances are, a half second burst from the stream of 50 cals means you're bound to lose something.

I think bombers are balanced about right.  If you are in an appropriate buff killing plane with big guns and you make your attacks properly, you have a chance to kill the bomber, the bomber has a chance to kill you.  If you make your attack runs poorly/lazily, the buff gunner has more of a chance to get you.  If the buff gunner is a top shelf one, he has more of a chance to kill you even if you do it right.  If you are lazy with a top shelf buff gunner, you're likely to die.  If you make your attacks right against an average/below average buff gunner, you've got a better than average chance of killing the entire formation.

Sounds about right to me.

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2013, 10:53:09 AM »
Totally true wiley. I can tell if the buffs have a uber gunner on board in the first pass. I take a little more caution after that setting up my next passes. With some of those guys though it doesn't matter what angle you come in from they are pinging the krap out of you at 1.5 out  :lol If I live I rarely leave undamaged with those guys.

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2013, 11:21:00 AM »
Long ago, I was flying a ta-152 on a solo hunt, had no deaths yet maybe 15 kills, so extra careful. I found and then was trying to kill an f4u, I was much higher, he had no E relative to me.  I was at about 15k altitude, maybe higher.
He dodged, so I climbed back up twice. I wasn't even doing a full engage. Was more like I found out he wasn't afk.

So maybe the third time, he followed me up. I was looking back, straight down, his range read 1000yrds. He was spraying. I remember feeling safe from his amo and that I was going to break off the attack, it was too risky to continue.
With a single ping from 1k about straight up, with me separating still - he was stalling, just before he fell over, HE PILOT WOUNDED ME with a single ping from 1k.

Superduper F4u amo... can break superweak ta-152 windows, from 1000yards straight up. Sooo years later, I'M CALLING BS.  :mad:

I flew towards home, in a shallow dive for speed, I needed about a sector to get to friendly territory, I waited too long to bail, I thought I had more time, the black outs became frequent tho, so I should have bailed, but soon enough... I died. :(
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2013, 12:10:12 PM »
Long ago, I was flying a ta-152 on a solo hunt, had no deaths yet maybe 15 kills, so extra careful. I found and then was trying to kill an f4u, I was much higher, he had no E relative to me.  I was at about 15k altitude, maybe higher.
He dodged, so I climbed back up twice. I wasn't even doing a full engage. Was more like I found out he wasn't afk.

So maybe the third time, he followed me up. I was looking back, straight down, his range read 1000yrds. He was spraying. I remember feeling safe from his amo and that I was going to break off the attack, it was too risky to continue.
With a single ping from 1k about straight up, with me separating still - he was stalling, just before he fell over, HE PILOT WOUNDED ME with a single ping from 1k.

Superduper F4u amo... can break superweak ta-152 windows, from 1000yards straight up. Sooo years later, I'M CALLING BS.  :mad:

I flew towards home, in a shallow dive for speed, I needed about a sector to get to friendly territory, I waited too long to bail, I thought I had more time, the black outs became frequent tho, so I should have bailed, but soon enough... I died. :(
so, basically the fact that he could have actually been somewhere between 950 to 1000 yards away you thought then as you do now that .50 caliber bullets should have zero penetration at that range.


maximum effective range of the m2 .50 caliber machine gun is and was approximately 2000 yards...meaning it will still punch through aluminum and cockpit armor at 1000 yards. it can still kill you if you draw the lucky number and get hit by a bullet out to about 6000 yards.
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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2013, 12:35:25 PM »
A cursory inspection of the internet seems to indicate to me that while many aircraft had armored front windscreens, many of the sides and backs particularly in bubble canopies and similar designs weren't of any meaningful armor value.  Am I wrong?

I know I wouldn't particularly want to stand behind a piece of plexiglass while someone 1k away took potshots at me.

Sounds about right to me.

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Re: Pilot Wounds BS
« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2013, 12:36:54 PM »
In my exsperiance, hi 3-4 o'clock is your friend. The bomber damage window is a little wider.

Also aim helps alot.
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