F6F Tweaks

[bustr]

Maximum speed-----gear trailing or extended-----300 knots IAS.

Ok 300 knt IAS = how fast TAS and what alt restriction?

[gyrene81]

Maximum speed-----gear trailing or extended-----300 knots IAS.

Ok 300 knt IAS = how fast TAS and what alt restriction?

doesn't matter, the manual assumes no one is stupid enough to get to 5,000ft with the gear down, much less 10-15,000ft.

figuring out what the effects of trailing gear means to the handling of the airplane would be more important...if section 2-56 paragraph has a clue, "lowering of the landing gear tends to make the airplane slightly nose-heavy", is an indication, dropping the gear over 135 knots probably makes the plane a bit difficult to handle.

i wonder what..."the maximum speed for unlimited use of the ailerons is 270 knots"...actually means. do the ailerons get heavy when you exceed 310mph?

[Shifty]

I'd like to tweak the F6F by adding the F6F-3

+1

[Letalis]

+1

Already asked for that a few months ago...

To recap:
-The F6F as currently modeled has the main gear creak around 160KTAS and BOTH mains will completely shear off by 200.  (The tailwheel shears around 450)
-For all the nitpicky here, can someone make the case that the main gear should shear off at 200 knots?  

"Well we're just trying to be accurate, don't get so touchy..."

-I can't understand why people can't seem to understand that the gear will not LOCK till 135KIAS and, "if lowered above (my emphasis) 135 knots IAS, the gear will trail" (aka not shear off).  Yet I sit here, trying to spoon feed a perspective to perfectly intelligent people who apparently:
A. Do NOT make a living reading flight manuals, and
B. would rather implicitly defend a flawed status quo.

You have been given a clip of a qualified pilot making reference to speed brake usage AND you have an entry straight from the manual.  "Facts" gleaned from comparison to the Mossie and F4U are inherently NA for the F6F - they are only considerations.  Grumman engineered a much more rugged and reliable aircraft than either Vought or ye olde toothpick assemblers.  Check. Mate.  

Not a single +1 for the other 2/3rds of the request?  Nice.

And yes, if Truman was truly responsible for the delay of the F8F, I hate his guts.

[whiteman]

And yes, if Truman was truly responsible for the delay of the F8F, I hate his guts.

well him and the Japanese surrendering instead of holding out another week or two.

Yes +1 for your request, was at work so i didn't get to read much besides the title.

[gyrene81]

Already asked for that a few months ago...

To recap:
-The F6F as currently modeled has the main gear creak around 160KTAS and BOTH mains will completely shear off by 200.  (The tailwheel shears around 450)
-For all the nitpicky here, can someone make the case that the main gear should shear off at 200 knots?  

"Well we're just trying to be accurate, don't get so touchy..."

-I can't understand why people can't seem to understand that the gear will not LOCK till 135KIAS and, "if lowered above (my emphasis) 135 knots IAS, the gear will trail" (aka not shear off).  Yet I sit here, trying to spoon feed a perspective to perfectly intelligent people who apparently:
A. Do NOT make a living reading flight manuals, and
B. would rather implicitly defend a flawed status quo.

You have been given a clip of a qualified pilot making reference to speed brake usage AND you have an entry straight from the manual.  "Facts" gleaned from comparison to the Mossie and F4U are inherently NA for the F6F - they are only considerations.  Grumman engineered a much more rugged and reliable aircraft than either Vought or ye olde toothpick assemblers.  Check. Mate.  

Not a single +1 for the other 2/3rds of the request?  Nice.

And yes, if Truman was truly responsible for the delay of the F8F, I hate his guts.

the gear break off issue doesn't only affect the f6f so unless you want to make a case for all aircraft...it's not worth discussing.

-1 on dive brakes...never happened, especially using the gear like the f4u.

+1 for the drop tanks and the centerline bomb.