Midway duels for his name...

[mechanic]

What is the top speed of a Spitfire Mark VIII in level flight with WEP and without a drop tank?

depends, what if a person of low moral fibre climbs up out of visual range then dives back down before the opponent sees your dot...?

[Triton28]

Midway flies way better than I can *shrug* 

[nrshida]

11 m.p.h discrepancy in the second film at the merge.

Not the old dive in to the deck merge trick BadBoy surely, with the firm intention of energy fighting your opponent from the get go. Then you bring that here and expect peer support.

I say shenanigans.

[SIK1]

depends, what if a person of low moral fibre climbs up out of visual range then dives back down before the opponent sees your dot...?

Knowing you bat. You shoot him in the head while inverted the whole time proclaiming your poor gunnery abilities.

[coombz]

What is the top speed of a Spitfire Mark VIII in level flight with WEP and without a drop tank?

African or European theater Spitfire?

[SirNuke]

African or European theater Spitfire?

[coombz]

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damn i can't fool this guy

[nrshida]

African or European theater Spitfire?

Depends on the size of the ears.

[mechanic]

I always tried to explain Sik, I have a trained monkey who does all the flying and shooting so I can type midfight to put the opponent off  


11mph at merge is not much of an advantage. Usually if foul play is invovled the difference would be at least 60mph

[Babalonian]

This is the best turn in the story yet.  I vote a rematch in 2-weeks, then after you win you hand it off to the winner of another duel for it (make sure it passes on to someone who midy will have to work hard at to beat   )

[nrshida]

I always tried to explain Sik, I have a trained monkey who does all the flying and shooting so I can type midfight to put the opponent off  


11mph at merge is not much of an advantage. Usually if foul play is invovled the difference would be at least 60mph

I agree, but it's enough for that technique, especially if someone has basically only been doing that for ten years. In the interests of fair play and given what they were fighting for I would assume they'd have to be equal. Merge not shown in the first film.

[mechanic]

yes, merge not shown in the first film was very odd. Almost no point posting a film at that late stage.

You will notice that by the time each of them has performed a half turn into the second merge during the second fight that the altitudes both read 3.7k while the speed discrepancy is 30mph in Gunzo's favour. This is down to better E conserving control and nothing more. Midway (php) was more aggressive and in that won himelf a good solution. Gunzo was lucky to get away with that but having not taken any damage the fight was then entirely decided. the original 11mph difference was probably due to smoother dive or use of wep versus non use of wep

[nrshida]

yes, merge not shown in the first film was very odd. Almost no point posting a film at that late stage.

You will notice that by the time each of them has performed a half turn into the second merge during the second fight that the altitudes both read 3.7k while the speed discrepancy is 30mph in Gunzo's favour. This is down to better E conserving control and nothing more. Midway (php) was more aggressive and in that won himelf a good solution. Gunzo was lucky to get away with that but having not taken any damage the fight was then entirely decided. the original 11mph difference was probably due to smoother dive or use of wep versus non use of wep

It's not luck this is his technique Batty. Dive from what though? A deck merge means you don't climb at all in my book. 11 m.p.h. is considerable against an opponent who is famous for turning aggressively in the initial merges looking for that infamous front quarter shot.

I've got no especial love for Midway's B/S bragging, but you can't be partisan. Fair is fair. I think the evidence presented indicates nothing except possible foul play.

<Quack>

[mechanic]

I figured that they may have started at 3k until icon range but they could just as easily not have as you say.

You could well be right about foul play.

I am purely discussing the ACMs shown, I have no desire to be personally affiliated with either side of the argument. I think Gunzo was lucky because midway got some good hits although only .303s. repeated 10 times midway would have scored some damage with that solution 50% of the time. A few pilots would have made that shot look easy everytime.

However, the method of rope a dope is as old as air combat itself I should imagine. It is extremely reckless to get caught in such a way. Supposing there was no foul play in the merge then there was nothing wrong with this method of killing. Not the most glamorous method or much of a display of skill, but falling for the oldest trick in the book is not the fault of the roper but the ropee.

[DrBone1]

I don't care who you are that is funny!! 

I already put it out on 200 that I want the Midway name for a awhile.