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Offline Karnak

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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2013, 11:14:00 AM »
       Apparently putting an American plane in a vote would be like adding a German vehicle to one... :D

I doubt there is a German vehicle left to add that would win against an American vehicle.

Its perfectly understandable.  Most of the players are Americans and are more likely to know what a listed American unit actually is whereas they may have no idea what a Tu-2 or Meteor or J2M is.
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2013, 11:19:52 AM »
I doubt there is a German vehicle left to add that would win against an American vehicle.

I think the Jagdtiger might have a good chance. You know, massive gun and armor, the stuff which commonly gets attributed with "awesome" and "epic" by a sizeable part of the AH community... ;)
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2013, 11:25:07 AM »
I think the Jagdtiger might have a good chance. You know, massive gun and armor, the stuff which commonly gets attributed with "awesome" and "epic" by a sizeable part of the AH community... ;)
Yeah, and it does have "Tiger" in it so they will probably guess it is potent even if they don't know what it is.  I suspect that would be true for the more obscure American units too, "I don't know what a P-61 is but 61 is bigger than 51 and it has a P on it so it is probably a better fighter."
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2013, 11:25:27 AM »
I voted for the 410, so that I could actually shoot down buffs.

With the 410, I can actually shoot down buffs.

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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #64 on: July 08, 2013, 05:12:21 PM »
No I didn't.

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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2013, 12:04:28 PM »
If we had gotten the Yak3 it would have become a furballer's dream and a few posts before quieting down to the K4 dweebs thumbing their noses at the Yak3 dweebs. The Me410 for all of the kvetching over it has generated ongoing posts and commentary. One of those love to hate and love to defend kind of rides. It has become it's versatile self with all of the weaknesses and strengths supported by a spirited following.

What did you expect??

It had big guns. Looked cool. And until it was released, most players refused to believe it had the maneuverability of a fat golden retriever. But, with patience, if used to it's mission role, is quite an effective bomber destroyer. Don't you think much of the vote at that time was for a base attacking griefermobile, tank killer, and on occasion secret fighter slaughterer?

And the Yak3? Most players cannot fly the Yak9u very effectively. So another tiny fighter with the same limitations and demands as the Yak9u? It doesn't matter if it's one of the most maneuverable planes in the game with mad speed on the deck. It doesn't have enough ammo for the spray by brail average spit and pony driver.

It would be interesting to see if Lusche can pull an over all stat on how many rounds fired to gain a single kill happens from most players. Statistics tend to illuminate human idiosyncratic choices in games. Speed, ammo load, maneuverability, perceived transference of power and survivability.

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This is probably more salient to the mind frame when the Me410 vote took place beyond the small number who actually understood what they were really voting for. Just call the Me410 "Barack's Ride", and enjoy the buyers remorse.
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2013, 12:10:59 PM »
It would be interesting to see if Lusche can pull an over all stat on how many rounds fired to gain a single kill happens from most players.

No, he can't. All he (and all of us) can see is the fighter hit% per player per tour. Only HTC knows how many rounds have been actually fired.
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2013, 01:00:49 PM »
8th AAF estimated 13,000 50cal from bombers fired to every killed fighter.

We may fire less because on average we spend more time in shooting combat per hour flown along with unlimited lives.

Wonder if Hitech can include a stat for round and type hits per aircraft in our killed and assist columns?
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2013, 01:11:40 PM »
Wonder if Hitech can include a stat for round and type hits per aircraft in our killed and assist columns?


Should be not much of a problem technically, but I know from experience they are very reluctant in changing anything stats & score related.
When the web stats presentation was changed a few years ago, we had number of sorties per plane dispalyed for a very short time. It was quickly taken away again, despite all my begging  :cry
Not even the damage point bug was corrected, as "it had always been that way".  :bhead
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2013, 02:08:49 PM »
most players refused to believe it had the maneuverability of a fat golden retriever.

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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2013, 05:53:31 PM »
Maybe Hitech wants to be bribed with Cragganmore instead of schnapps.
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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #71 on: July 09, 2013, 06:01:07 PM »
Maybe Hitech wants to be bribed with Cragganmore instead of schnapps.




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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2013, 07:57:11 PM »


Hmmm....


Hmmm...



This has got to either be the most sadistic joke ever played by HT...or...some seriously sweet serendipitous WOOT factor!!! :rock :rock :rock

Thank you gentlemen for all your work bringing this beautiful bird to life in our virtual skies.  

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Re: We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
« Reply #74 on: July 10, 2013, 08:01:58 PM »
Best wishlist fulfillment timing ever!  Unfortunately, I think this sets a new standard in customer service.  :D

(Heck, the pilot even looks like me. :aok I think that wraps up this wishlist nicely...)  

Thanks again!!
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