Author Topic: email providers  (Read 867 times)

Offline helbent

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 657
Re: email providers
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2013, 09:14:37 AM »
Excuse me, thats 40/year, not month
Creator and original CO of the now HiJacked Squad -=Hell Hounds=-
Never argue with an idiot.  They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Avator by fugi.

Offline Traveler

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3148
      • 113th Lucky Strikes
Re: email providers
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2013, 05:39:58 PM »
all these requirements for phone numbers on email accounts goes back to the NSA and their requirement to track everything and be able to sort and correlate emails with your phone records.  Big brother is here and is watching.  The constitution is a joke.
Traveler
Executive Officer
113th LUcky Strikes
http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/113th_Lucky_Strikes

Offline eagl

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6769
Re: email providers
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2013, 06:30:19 PM »
If you give google a phone number, it may send account security codes there for changing passwords and stuff.  If you no longer use that phone number, it may be re-used so whoever gets that number may receive google text messages regarding your account.

Skuzzy, I read an article outlining what google does with gmail.  Apparently somewhere in the license or in terms of use or whatever, it is clear that it scans all email and adds/associates everything in every email you send and receive within the google associational database.  It's mostly for ad research and targeting but as you found out, the data they're skimming from your emails and storing is used to build a very complete picture of you and your email correspondents.

The main lesson though is that they scan, store, and associate everything from every email.  At some point you will probably be able to type the email without specifying the recipient and it will be able to accurately recommend recipients based on the email content.

I use earthlink because they bought out mindspring who bought out micron.net who bought out...  you get the picture.  I pay about $5/month so I can keep the same email address and webspace I've had for nearly 18 years.  I have their basic email package which is about 6 email addresses, webmail access, some web and ftp space, and a couple of other features I don't use much.  I also have a yahoo and a gmail account for when I don't want to give out my primary email address, but the yahoo account keeps being used by retards signing up for game or porn accounts so I do have to occasionally use it to un-subscribe to whatever service those idiots have used my email account for.
Everyone I know, goes away, in the end.

Offline eagl

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6769
Re: email providers
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2013, 06:34:32 PM »
Rush Limbaugh always talks about Reagan.com, 40 dollars a mo and never scans reads or sells your info.

IMO all the free providers are doing something underhanded, or it wouldn't be free.

I thought it was $40/year, not per month.  And yea, privacy is a key advertised feature of that service.

I ran my own mail server using dyndns for a while and it worked but it was a hassle to maintain.  dyndns is an awesome service, and you can even get domains "free" as long as you maintain them.  If you quit using them then they revert back to being available to other people.  You can pay to lock them down for your use, but at that point you might as well just buy a regular domain from a big hosting service and use those features which may also include email.  I managed my AH squad's domain for a few years when we were an active squad and it was really nice to have our own domain and an internet hosting service for webpages and email.
Everyone I know, goes away, in the end.

Offline Skuzzy

  • Support Member
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 31462
      • HiTech Creations Home Page
Re: email providers
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2013, 07:02:36 AM »
I could, easily, run my own server.  I have given thought to renting out a server at a colo, getting a domain, and using it.  I would not use a hosting service, as I would want my own dedicated hardware to run as I see fit.

Still thinking about it.  I would need to find 50 or 60 people willing to pay $20/year to help cover the cost.
Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
support@hitechcreations.com

Offline Rondar

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 682
Re: email providers
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2013, 02:00:55 PM »
I could, easily, run my own server.  I have given thought to renting out a server at a colo, getting a domain, and using it.  I would not use a hosting service, as I would want my own dedicated hardware to run as I see fit.

Still thinking about it.  I would need to find 50 or 60 people willing to pay $20/year to help cover the cost.

I would like to be on the list.
To understand true love, lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour and then see which one is glad to see you when you come back

Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: email providers
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2013, 02:53:44 PM »
Gmail asks for a phone number, but you do not have to provide it.

And you should be concerned about Google/Gmail.  I was sending an email the other day, and in the body of the message, I typed, "I am sending you the attachment....".

Only I forgot to actually attach the file.  Never fear!  Google popped a warning message, when I hit "Send", as follows:

"You said you were going to send (name of person) an attachment, yet you did not attach a file.  Would you like to try again?"

Two things.  No where in the email was the real name of the person Google showed me in the error.  And, of course, telling me i was sending an attachment, which I forgot to send, was a bit worrisome as well.


This weekend I am going to play with it to see how much they really are comprehending in a message.

At this point, I would pay for an alternative if I knew the alternative would stay out of my business.

 i've always been paranoid about googles mail.....and would be interested to know what you find out.
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)

Offline cpxxx

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2707
Re: email providers
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2013, 06:53:44 AM »
Well the Iranians have solved the problem of the NSA monitoring their online traffic. http://www.thejournal.ie/iran-national-email-983302-Jul2013/

Everybody gets and official government email account. I love one of the comments below it:
Quote
No doubt the(Iranian) Government will be using this service to spy on its population & arrest those not supporting terrorism
:aok

I have to say I've been gradually minimising my interaction online lately not because of worries about the being spied on by governments. Not that I've anything to hide but I don't like mega multinational companies knowing more about me than my wife.

Bit brother was fiction, this isn't.

Offline CAP1

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22287
      • The Axis Vs Allies Arena
Re: email providers
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2013, 07:46:56 AM »
Well the Iranians have solved the problem of the NSA monitoring their online traffic. http://www.thejournal.ie/iran-national-email-983302-Jul2013/

Everybody gets and official government email account. I love one of the comments below it:  :aok

I have to say I've been gradually minimising my interaction online lately not because of worries about the being spied on by governments. Not that I've anything to hide but I don't like mega multinational companies knowing more about me than my wife.

Bit brother was fiction, this isn't.

 the nsa thing...and i'm trying to dance carefully here.......is nothing new. it's been going on for years. i'd heard about it at least 5 years ago on one of those "conspiracy" type shows. after watching it, i googled(yea i know) it, and found it was pretty scary, and true. there are NO communications other than face to face that they do/can not monitor/track/listen/record. even land lines eventually end up as air waves, and they go though there too.
 back then, when i'd mention this stuff to people they all called me paranoid.

 sorry if i stepped over a line there.......trying not to.....
ingame 1LTCAP
80th FS "Headhunters"
S.A.P.P.- Secret Association Of P-38 Pilots (Lightning in a Bottle)