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Offline Guppy35

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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 10:23:57 PM »
Don't forget to crop the spinner at that first panel line for a BOB-era E-4. They didn't get spinner caps until the E-7 much later.  :aok

Ahh but not true oh Krusty one :)

They started to show up at the tail end of the B of B and can be found on E3s and E4s.  Lots of photo evidence of them.  Not to worry though as I've got 4 templates to play with for folks who want their 109E.  I'm sure the rivet counters can point out all kinds of things not right with them, but I'm having fun with it and they look the part.  I'm partial to the look of the capped spinner and the early canopy so it had to be :)

E-3 with the early spinner and no yellow nose


Later yellow nosed E-3 with the capped spinner


E-4 with no yellow and the early spinner


And a late E-4 with the yellow nose and spinner cap

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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 10:28:15 PM »
In for this one  :banana:

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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 10:31:57 PM »
Dan, I went ahead and signed up for the 109's. I didn't realize it's just one big group on the registration page. Hopefully a few more of VF-17 will join us.

I'm partial to a yellow nose. I kind of like the 2/JG3 by Krusty.  :rock
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 10:36:46 PM »
Ahh but not true oh Krusty one :)

They started to show up at the tail end of the B of B and can be found on E3s and E4s.  Lots of photo evidence of them.  Not to worry though as I've got 4 templates to play with for folks who want their 109E.  I'm sure the rivet counters can point out all kinds of things not right with them, but I'm having fun with it and they look the part.  I'm partial to the look of the capped spinner and the early canopy so it had to be :)

D'oh... and part of me knew that, too. I just plum fergot! As soon as I read this I knew exactly what you were talking about before I even scrolled to the pictures.


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I'm partial to a yellow nose. I kind of like the 2/JG3 by Krusty.  :rock

Ironically, that was an E-4 that had a pointed cap!

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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2013, 11:21:01 PM »
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I'd say that putting more He111s is far better to the scenario balance than putting in more Ju88s.

Thank you, I'm glad you agree.  There actually are reasons why we have Half HE111's and HALF JU88s instead of ALL JU88s as in all three prior versions of this event.

As for the rest of your facts, thank you, but you spent a great deal of time on the differences between the planes but didn't mention one thing about the total tonnage we allocated.  Which, again, is enough to achieve the objectives, which is the first thing we consider. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2013, 11:28:11 PM »
The other scenarios had no choice BUT to use Ju88s. We have a much more representative option now. Question is with this much better match to the BOB era, why is so much emphasis still placed on the Ju88s which have almost no place in a BOB setting?

Unless I'm mistaken, there were equal numbers of Ju88s and He111s, 2 squadrons of 12, each divided into 2 groups of 6, with drones enabled.

I would go back and verify this but apparently the rules writeup is now marked as a "private section of the webpage" and I cannot view it, even though I'm logged in.

EDIT: I don't mean to imply I'm picking a fight. It's a subject I am passionate about, as you may recall. There are many problems to using the Ju88A-4s in our BOB scenarios. I remember them all too well.
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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2013, 11:36:32 PM »
Another Bob.

Dan if you have room for an old gun hand I am in.

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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2013, 11:41:42 PM »
Another Bob.

Dan if you have room for an old gun hand I am in.

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Check your PMs.  Already asked you earlier tonight so yes you have a spot:)
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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2013, 12:04:51 AM »
Link fixed. Not sure how it got switched, but it's back :)
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2013, 12:16:20 AM »
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There are many problems to using the Ju88A-4s in our BOB scenarios. I remember them all too well.
  I know, the problems were so insurmountable that even with all those JU88s the Axis won two out of three times, and the one time the Allies won it was by a single building.

Now, there are half JU88s and Half HE111s.  Not sure I see a problem here. Pretty much going with it as it is.
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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2013, 12:21:18 AM »
Don't need to tell me. I was axis CO and even won using those '88s. I've also flown against them. I've participated in at least 3 BOB scenarios and countless FSO BOB setups. There's almost no hope of intercepting after first merge with hurricane mk.1s. They are literally more than 20mph faster than the He111s at FTH.

I would hope after this ... test... that the Aces High Ju88A-4 never sees another BOB scenario again. If we get the A-1, then that should replace it in the BOB role.

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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2013, 04:01:25 AM »
Small notes:

1. It may be good idea to let Fi-156 to be used by Axis for S&R instead of Dakota?
2. I'm second about that He-110 should be dominant bomber instead of Ju-88
3. I think it would be ok to perform rescue over enemy territory as long as you allowed to shoot the rescuers over the enemy territory but not over friendly territory. This would make Axis life much harder.
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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2013, 07:23:56 AM »
Good to see Ill have plenty of targets for my Hurricane. Requesting a GL Position if open.
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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2013, 09:14:26 AM »
What is the allied CO bbs ID?  :bhead
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Re: Battle Of Britain 2013 Registration Now Open
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2013, 09:25:55 AM »


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I hear 109's make cute explosions.
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