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Offline shoresroad

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2013, 11:50:58 PM »
The Rough Puppies welcome Popeye27  :cheers:

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2013, 04:30:25 AM »
Here is a diagram of a formation flown by the U.S. Army Air Force 2nd Bomb Group in an actual WWII mission flown on August 29, 1944.  A picture is worth a thousand words, and this image shows what happened to the laggers...they were shot down.

The moral of the story in the image below is to get yourself tucked in close to your buddies and hold that position using the Autopilot Wingman Mode function so you won't drift apart when you are in your guns.

Because each bomber pilot controls 3 planes in his formation in Aces High it takes only 8 pilots to form a formation very similar to the diagram below, and we will fly smaller segments of the diagram when we have less than 8 pilots. 

There were also altitude variations used in WWII bombing formations (high, center, and low positions within a formation), but as the war progressed the elevation differences were minimized to "pack'em in tight."  So we will focus most on the horizontal and less on the vertical to keep things simple, fun, and VERY effective.

Whether flying with 3, 4, 5 or more bomber pilots, by using the formation concept below and holding it with the Autopilot Wingman Mode the chance for survival of the entire formation is greatly enhanced.  The width of the formation makes it more dangerous for interceptors to approach the "Tail End Charlie" positions and the length of the formation makes raking frontal, top and bottom approaches by interceptors more difficult. 

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2013, 04:05:59 PM »
"We always crossed the enemy lines at a minimum altitude of 18,000 feet. This enabled us to avoid small arms fire. Our rate of climb after take off was calculated to achieve this goal. The weather played a big roll in establishing the bomb run altitude. The average was 26,000 to 27,000 feet. My highest was 28,500. Our bomb group had dropped from 30,000 plus on one occasion."

Bill Runnels
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8TH Air Force
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303RDBG, 360THBS

http://forum.armyairforces.com/Typical-altitude-for-B17-missions-m72178.aspx

http://www.303rdbg.com/runnels-memories.html
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 04:11:38 PM by shoresroad »
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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2013, 08:51:25 PM »
This squad sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.  How do I contact the Rough Puppies recruiting office?
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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2013, 04:40:11 PM »
This squad sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.  How do I contact the Rough Puppies recruiting office?
Vudoo

Hello Vudoo,

PM sent...

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2013, 04:03:06 AM »
The Rough Puppies welcome Vudoo :cheers:

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2013, 05:45:34 AM »
Thanks Boss.  Glad to be here!
Awesome Squadron!  :aok

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2013, 01:25:14 PM »
The Rough Puppies welcome Qauzara :cheers:

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2013, 03:32:00 AM »
Welcome aboard Quazara!  Looking forward to flying with ya!
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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2013, 06:49:22 AM »
A big thank you to everyone who joined the Rough Puppies pickup missions last night in the LWMA!

On our first mission named "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" we took B-25's NOE to the Rook Strats, popped to 1500 feet and bombed the city center in a raid designed to recreate the famous Jimmy Doolittle raid on Tokyo in April 1942.

Our second mission named "Raid on German Aircraft Factory" was a recreation of a canceled Allied raid planned in 1943 that we finally completed 70 years later!  Special thanks to Cashew for researching the story to put this together :aok

The third mission was a raid on the Rook Strats in 8th AAF style where we survived relentless attacks by 262's, 109's, and 152's beginning 2 sectors out.  

We had many VIP's join our missions last night including Vudu15 who may put some of the action on YouTube for your viewing enjoyment!  Thanks, Vudu :aok

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« Last Edit: September 15, 2013, 06:52:36 AM by shoresroad »
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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2013, 09:11:38 AM »
Badger,

It's good to see you guys enjoying some success!  Best of luck to you and your members!

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2013, 05:03:21 PM »
Ive flown several times with the Rough Puppies over the last month and am encouraged with the progress that has been made so far. I think with each run the pilots get better and more experienced. Getting comfortable with these runs and anticipating what to do next is something not easily achieved without grinding it out and flying in the missions. Over the next month id like to see these formations begin to maximize damage output a little better once the kinks of formation flying is worked out with the lesser experienced pilots.

<S> I have to say for bomber pilots with a nasty taste for nme interceptors your not going to find a more exciting fight. 25k with 3-10 sets of buff is a force to contend with and damn near suicide for any who try to "Shoot the ball" :airplane: :rock

Hope to see many out tomorrow night 9pm CST.

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2013, 06:50:30 PM »
I just realized its you and your boys with the huge darbar at strats late at night
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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2013, 03:17:28 AM »
Badger,

It's good to see you guys enjoying some success!  Best of luck to you and your members!

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Ammo

Thanks, Ammo!

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Re: Rough Puppies Recruiting Bomber Pilots and Fighter Escorts
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2013, 03:25:11 AM »
Ive flown several times with the Rough Puppies over the last month and am encouraged with the progress that has been made so far. I think with each run the pilots get better and more experienced. Getting comfortable with these runs and anticipating what to do next is something not easily achieved without grinding it out and flying in the missions. Over the next month id like to see these formations begin to maximize damage output a little better once the kinks of formation flying is worked out with the lesser experienced pilots.

<S> I have to say for bomber pilots with a nasty taste for nme interceptors your not going to find a more exciting fight. 25k with 3-10 sets of buff is a force to contend with and damn near suicide for any who try to "Shoot the ball" :airplane: :rock

Hope to see many out tomorrow night 9pm CST.

Thank you, FineTime :aok

Badger :salute
"Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant."
Manfred von Richthofen