Next Setup

[FabryKA6]

ALLIED:

P51B
P51D (perked)
P47D11
P47D30
P38J
B26 (perked)
Spit5
Seafire
Typhoon (perked)
F4-1D
F6-F5
TBM
C47

M3
M16
Allied tank (use Pnzr IV )

AXIS:

C202
C205
109F4
109G2
109G6
109G10 (perked)
190A5
190A8
190F8
190D9 (perked)
Ju88
Do217 (use B26) (perked)
Ju52 (use C47)

SdKfz 7 (use M3)
SdKfz7 armed (use M16)
Tk
Pnz. IV

As you se we are very close to have a complete european planeset the most needed are the: Ju 52, some kind of axis eavy bomber , and an allied tank.


FabriK6

1° Gruppo Caccia "ASSO DI BASTONI"

[Fester']

remove all carrier groups and make them fields of the unused country and move them off map

all german aircraft enabled

all us and brit aircraft enabled but split up bases from which what is available to add variety and similarity to oposition.

ie: fighting a certain base you face british craft fighting another base its US planes

just remove all carriers please

[Duckwing6]

dunno maaybe this has been mentioned already but what the heck the tread is too long and my time is short so i'll just drop my 2 cents worth...

RPS is actually there already ... in a way it's right there with the perk point system.. you can completely customize it so it's just a matter of tweaking it a bit:


Here's what i'd do:

Axis:
109Fs, G2 Free
109G6 5 Perk points
109G19 10 Perk Points
FW190A5 5 Perk points
FW190A8 8 Perk Points
FW190D9 20 Perk Points
TA152   25 Perk Points
JU88 Free

Allies:
Spit V, Seafire, P47D11 Free
P38, P47D25 5 Perk points
P51B 8 Perk points
P51D 10 Perk points
P47D30 10 Perk points
Typhoon 15 Perk points
Tempest 25 Perk points

B26 Free
B17 5 Perk Point
Lanc hmm.. not sure must be perked even tho was used extemsively.. so say 8 Perk points


Ok now before ya all yell.. if you set the ENY values correct for example the free planes have an eny value of 20, you'd need to kill 5 Spits in a free 109 and you'll have your FW190A5, or a Jug driver would have to kill 10 109Fs to get a P51... the ENY values for more expensive planes would go down, for example say 5 for a P51 and a G10 so it would need them 40(!!) kills of free planes to earn back their 10 Perkpoints they just cashed in to get their ride back (if they loose it), or at least 10 kills of planes with EQUAL strength to get it back..

what would be the outcome? you'd see a lot of early war airplanes with an ocassional latewar plane... but some would be REALLY rare like they were in RL.

Cheers
DW6

[Creamo]

just remove all carriers please...

Yah, why are they in there? They wouldn't be in the English channel with this new map you wouldn't think.

BTW, how long does it take to go from the British airfields to France? (in the AH map)

[SKurj]

NO perks!!

NO G10, NO 51D, no D30, No D9, No F4U, No Tempest, nO Typh, No russian Ac, nO japanese AC, no AxIs CV, 1 aLLied Cv, no tA152, no 234

Add hurri IIc of course... not sure what my vote is on heavies... I prefer the lighter load of 17, but with porked guns...

leave the MA fer the late war monsters

SKurj

[popeye]

Use SWulfe's list, but drop the 51B and add the 38L.

NO PERKS.

[Eagler]

brits - lanc
germs - 109g

 

[Duckwing6]

gawd .. before you guys cry NO PERK  think about it ...

if the Perk Points get reset with each tour roll over (or each won war for that matter) you'd have to fly HEAPS to earn D9 for example given the ENY values are set so that it takes you a while .....

think about it a bit before ya cry OH NOOOOoooooooo ....

DW6

[Creamo]

No Perks-

Is the CT seperate from the MA for accumulation of perks?

[R4M]

Originally posted by SKurj:
NO perks!!
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NO G10
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leave the MA fer the late war monsters

SKurj

Once again,put the G10 in that list until we get a proper 109G6 with DB605AS or AM engine. Because without it you are putting the german set at a disadvantage.

IMO the perks are good to allow certain late war planes into the CT.So please use that or a RPS. I think that the Dora is not so bad to have as perk plane, and in any case I dont want to need to go to the MA to fly a 190D9, sorry  .

[ 08-14-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[Wilbus]

Perk Points in the CT get reset every new tour?????????
Please don't let it be so.

Swulfes setup seams good but like Ram says, with a G10. Hurricane IIC could be added to the RAF list as soon as 1.08 is out.

[AKSWulfe]

You want to add aircraft from several different years, is this the "a-historical" arena or what?
-SW

[Zigrat]

funkedups idea is awesome

[Duckwing6]

Creamo:

CT is differnt from MA as for perk points... so you'd need to start from scratch to get perks in the CT.

DW6

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by R4M:



Once again,put the G10 in that list until we get a proper 109G6 with DB605AS or AM engine. Because without it you are putting the german set at a disadvantage.

IMO the perks are good to allow certain late war planes into the CT.So please use that or a RPS. I think that the Dora is not so bad to have as perk plane, and in any case I dont want to need to go to the MA to fly a 190D9, sorry   .

[ 08-14-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

This is not about equal  ground, (even though I think it is definately that), It is about a historical planeset. If it was a 1940 BOB arena, the Germans would be at an advantage, and that would be just fine because that is just how history dictated it. SW's list is really good and about the best we can do. Leave the G10, P-51D, Tempest, TA152, D30, D25, Dora out till another time frame is wished for.

Allied-

Spit 5, Spit 9, P-47D11, P-51B, B26

Axis-

109F, 109G2, 109G6, 190A5, Ju88

Whats wrong with that? That is a January 44 list. The months leading up to historical Big week in March. I get excited thinking about how much fun it would be.

< I left out the Lightening because the one we have is a later variant.>