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Offline Slate

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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2013, 08:43:55 AM »
  I remember an early Call of Duty game that put you through a GI training program that would have you learn the weapons, how to throw a grenade, and navigate ect. I liked it and it got you up to speed quick.
   Something like that could be put together perhaps in a separate arena or offline with pop up help topics. Select base, select plane in hanger, outfit your aircraft with desired weapons, check fuel load, choose desired runway, ect.

    Many games have these for the uninitiated so you don't get discouraged.  :aok
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 12:32:36 PM »
What I used to do with a new squaddie that was new to the game is I took him to the DA and teach him the blue collar aspects of the game: Deacking, dive bombing, rockets on a city.  Then we up bombers for calibration and release.  Then I went into the basics of E and angles and very basic merge fundamentals and defense.  Then they would practice it in the MA and within 2 months they were actually decent and average sticks.  After 2 months it's actually pretty good progress. 
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2013, 12:49:09 PM »
What I used to do with a new squaddie that was new to the game is I took him to the DA and teach him the blue collar aspects of the game: Deacking, dive bombing, rockets on a city.  Then we up bombers for calibration and release.  Then I went into the basics of E and angles and very basic merge fundamentals and defense.  Then they would practice it in the MA and within 2 months they were actually decent and average sticks.  After 2 months it's actually pretty good progress. 

well, that explains a few things  :old:
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2013, 03:13:43 PM »
I am sure Hi Tech has thought of this, but, looks to me like, if when someone downloaded the game on their PC, considering if he or she is not a trained pilot, how about a required 1 hour training period for them!

  I like the idea, but I think making it mandatory will turn people away.  Make a tutorial, make sure that every new person knows it is there.  Once they get lost a few times, remind them about the tutorial, and the training sessions.  Veteran players urge (but don't nag) the new players to get the training.
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2013, 03:25:37 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMrdrYzbuQY&list=PL54E5CE4C59347B00&index=1

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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2013, 03:28:12 PM »
What are you saying a tutorial areana with text coming up to explain how to start engine etc?
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2013, 03:44:46 PM »
I gotta say, learning the hard way by research in the forums, off line flying as much as possible, real AH in  air combat, watching the better players get kills then trying to fit in and get good, get some tips, join a squad, have fun and reach goals is the WTG. Having said that I guess if you were on the fence, un imaginative, lazy our just plain scared I could see why some people would need a hand hold. I like that this game is hard in every sense but not un doable. Right?  There is so much to gain by figuring stuff out for yourself. But that's just me. Peace
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2013, 03:54:38 PM »
I think the idea to reapeat to new players that there is a trainers page and tutorials there for them to use is a good one.

Idk about you, but I'm one of those that delves right into something and get my beak wet. After I realize my beak is bent and I can't figure out the game, or how to put the device together I break down and look at the darn instruction manual. I'm sure that's a good percentage of us...

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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2013, 04:35:47 PM »
I think the idea to reapeat to new players that there is a trainers page and tutorials there for them to use is a good one.

Idk about you, but I'm one of those that delves right into something and get my beak wet. After I realize my beak is bent and I can't figure out the game, or how to put the device together I break down and look at the darn instruction manual. I'm sure that's a good percentage of us...

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This!

Having the info available whether it's in a web page form for reading, video for watching, or even a "training mission" to get you started isn't going to help if people don't use it, and most people DON'T use it. Suggesting that they use the info comes across as telling them "Go look it up for your self!" and just alienates people.

Maybe a new icon color for 2 weekers only their countrymen can see. See a pink icon and you know is a friendly AND a 2 weeker. This way ...one would hope.... others would help them out and maybe, just maybe go easy on them. Make the transition a bit easier on them.

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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2013, 04:57:18 PM »
I downloaded the game and played for a year before I found out there was a forum.



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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2013, 05:08:28 PM »
I downloaded the game and played for a year before I found out there was a forum.



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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2013, 05:11:08 PM »
:airplane: There, I rest my case! there are things which need to be done to help new players!

Agreed. Get rid of the forums, they're a bad influence.  ;)

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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2013, 05:27:13 PM »
:airplane: There, I rest my case! there are things which need to be done to help new players!
the forums have 1 section that is helpful to brand new guys, the 'help and training' section, other than that seeing threads from most posters would turn them away in GD, wishlist, O Club, etc. There's really no point to be made in someone not finding the forums. I didn't find the forums until about a year into my game play either, and I did just fine. I've still never once read a manual or training guide to AH, lol.
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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2013, 06:07:58 PM »
:airplane: There, I rest my case! there are things which need to be done to help new players!




  Earl, as a trainer I understand exactly what you are saying and I even agree for the most part but as others have said"you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink".

  There is a ton of info out there,the trainers site,help and training forum and netaces are just a few,Vudu has done some terrific videos as have many other players. I myself spend a couple hours most weeknights in the training arena to lend a hand with any issues a player may have.

   Unfortunately it's not the fun part of AH,not many are willing to spend the time to get the hours logged,you understand that Earl,they'd rather fly and shoot and be killed than learn BFM or how to takeoff and land. Eventually some get to the point where they want to improve and seek out a trainer for some 1 on 1 time.


   I would like to see a video tutorial on the different aspects of AH but I don't have the abilities required to do it.



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Re: Help for Protential New Players
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2013, 07:36:06 PM »
I downloaded the game and played for a year before I found out there was a forum.



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:airplane: There, I rest my case! there are things which need to be done to help new players!

That also proves my point. All of the information was available, on HTC web site, the WIKI, the Trainers site and the forums. How much did he use? The forums alone can be a great help asking questions, posting films and getting info on them, viewing other peoples films and reading the info on those. By not knowing, or looking for the forum (nice handy link on the HTC home page) he missed out on all that help that was available.

On top of that, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. SHOWING these people all these spots to get info and training doesn't help if they don't want to help them selves.

EDIT: Sorry Morph didn't read your post until after I went off!  <S>