To HiThech about price issue

[Dago]

Seems simple to me.

If you cant afford the price of $30, then dont play it. If my situation was such that this puta strain on my budget, then I wouldnt play.

If you dont think AH is worth $30, then dont play.  It's worth it to me, I think its a bargain.  One day on the golf course cost as much as a month of AH, and for $30 I get a month of fun, not just one afternoon of sunburn and frustration.

The fact is that this game was probably not envisioned to allow everyone who would like to play to be able to play.  I would like to buy and drive a Porsche, but I cant afford one.  I dont complain that Porsche should drop the price for me.

I dont go to football, basketball or baseball games. I dont think they are worth the price.
Why would anyone play if it is not worth the price to them?

This game exists to make money. Without a decent return on the investment at some point, it would cease to exist.

It would be great if Bill Gates put out a free sim, let all who want to play have somewhere to fly.  But HT and Pyro are not multibillionaires that I know of.

I do kinda wonder, how is it someone can afford a very good computer (required for AH), pay for an ISP, have the free time to play, and yet not have one dollar a day to play the game?

Would I like them to drop the price, sure.
Do I think they should? No, not if it endangers the long term viability of HTC.

Enough rambling

Dago

[Creamo]

Damn Dago, that's just about right. Spring is coming, here comes the golf, jetski, and 3D Bow shooting seasons, not to mention going to Nascar Races. As if upgrading the computer every January isnt enough!

Sure, you guys can quote the $1 a day company line...

There aint no AH pom poms shredding in my beer. AH is a stable huge multiplayer WWII combat sim for dirt cheap, that's just a fact. No matter how you slice it up, it's $1 per day to keep a account. They make the game, promote it the best they know how, and provide a server I can play on. I give em $30/month in return. Peroid.

 Anything else regarding the pay options are covered in the link to pyro's explanation, specifically the argument that more people = equally more profit.(heh, I forgot all about Badger btw... )

Also Lepaul, no one that "loves" AH will balk at paying for it. No way. (unless in fact they have absolutley no liquid entertainment assets, and that's possible I guess. That's to say I love playing Aces High 200 hours/ month for $15, but will not play it at all for $30? Hmmmm.

I've also shown AH to plenty of people and although they thought it was really neat, they hadn't a clue what a hardcore sim was and wouldn't pay if even it was $7 a month. They were happy as hell playing Diablo, CFS2, and Crimsons Skies all day long though. Now how HTC attracts these customers, I don't know. Pricing options perhaps. Gameplay additions like Autotakeoff, Combat Trim, padlock etc..?

I must say I don't know crap about marketing or the software business or any of that, but you gotta realise your arguing just that with HTC. The very company that has built this whole deal, and I think even had alot to do with another successful sim,  WBS.

Ya might want to put a little more faith in their decison making, that's all.

[SpitLead]

Ditto.  I think it's too high.  I'm paying more for the game per month than for my month Internet provider!  That just seems out of whack.  The code is done, it's just support now.  I was very hestitant to pay $30/mo and still am thinking of bailing out.  I think it should be comparable with an internet provider.  That's what most people are use to paying for something online.  And, it's more expensive than almost all online games. There's a simple business model.  Lower the price and you make up the difference by selling MORE of the product.  They might even make more money by bringing on new players which exceed the difference lost from paying a higher price. At least, OFFER a lower rate of say $15/mo for 20 hrs online and $1.50 for each hour there after.  Then the choice is up to you if you want to pay more.  

[aliwood]

 

$30bux is just about where one can brake even and be able to support this type of project with set number people.  You have to factor the cost of development, network connection and servers.  Now if they were to lower their price they would get more people in, that is correct but $10bux-$15bux a month would not even come close to cover the cost of support and network connection per user.  So in turn they would have to bleed the companies fund or give you guy’s lower support and bad connections.  

Plus the way one should look at this is you are basically paying for box game that is on sale at best buys every month. Rather then taking the chance on some new single player or limited user network player game, which now days lots of times turn out to be crappy, and buggy cause they had to push it out the door. You are buying a game you like and you enjoy every month.   Plus the price tag tends to keep general cheap A**holes (pardon my French) away!  

The resaon FA can give it away for 10bux a month has nothing to do with making a profit.  They really don’t have too, the network they are on is owned by MSN.  So they don’t have to worry about paying for there connection.   If they were to split that up and make zone its own company and have them pay for there connection and support you would be see much bigger price tag of there games!  


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[Westy]

 Dago, Creamo and  Starman covered it oh so very well.

 <S> to you all who know WTF your talking about.  

  -Westy

(even at $10/mo at FA, AW and also in the WWII Online web boadrs there are hordes of "poepl" who squeak and moan that they have to pay anything at all)

[Ripsnort]

SpitLead said:"The code is done"

Evidently you do not know HiTech and Company very well....the code is never done, and they continue to give us upgrades, a fair price IMO for the excellent customer service alone, let alone the continuous upgrades.

[Yeager]

HTC dont lower the price too much!

AH is infested with too much low class riff raff as it is.

Hell!  Raise the price to to $2 an hour to get rid of some of these smelly punk dweebs!  Send em packin back to AW and FA where they can piss and swim in their own water.

Thnx,
Yeager  

[Tailslide]

 I guess I am the riff raff.. I'd also be here if the price didn't work out to over $50 CDN per month.

 (nose pressed against the glass)
 
   TS

[pzvg]

Aw jeez, Not the old "the price will keep all the dweebs out"
Look at all the fuggheads who are here, I think you could raise the price to $100/hr, and we would still see DipS**ts flying.
Elitist my hairy Houdini! I think HTC should give people a discount for having to put up with some of ya.


Oh, and for the cunning rebuttal to be,

 Bite me

[NHMadmax]

I pay 21 english pounds a months to stay up and till silly times in the morning to play this game with my squad mates i am happy as toejam. Tired all the time but happy. Lower it keep it the same who gives a toejam. If you can't afford to play it. Stop whining and look for a cheaper imitation of AH and BUG them with you moans and groans about prices and this plane that plane this gun and that. You are like old moaning women.

[This message has been edited by NHMadmax (edited 02-07-2001).]