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Offline jimson

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Starting today
« on: September 13, 2013, 11:49:54 AM »


******STAGED MISSION INSTRUCTIONS******

Missions will run on Tuesdays at 3pm est and 8pm est

      <<<<Tigers on the prowl>>>>


1. CLICK ON STAGED MISSIONS

2. CLICK ON POPULATE

You should see a screen with your in game name on the left
side and a number of planes listed on the right.

To join mission click to highlite your in game name
and then double click on the slot you want to fly. Your
name should then appear with a checkmark in either the
AXIS or ALLIED column and also next to the plane slot you
have chosen.

3. WAIT FOR BRIEFING (if there is one) AND MISSION
TO START

If you only see a blank populate screen, the system is
still sending you the mission. Wait a few seconds,
exit the screen and then try again.

4. If the join in progress box is checked, you may be
able to join the mission after it is started.

Just click on your name and a plane slot as above.
Be prepared to spawn in flight and have your throttle
open.

5. If you are eliminated, you may be able to rejoin
mission if open slots remain. To do this, return to the
populate screen, click your name in the AXIS or ALLIED
column, click unassign and repeat the above instructions.

6. You may need to reduce your speed considerably,
sometimes even half throttle to stay with the AI group.
Of course you can also circle to rejoin them. Depending
on the mission design this may not be critical because
there may be a warp  to the combat segment that will put
you in postion from wherever you happen to be.

7. The route you should be flying is shown in red on your
clipboard map.

Planes enabled at v-bases

***Allies***
P40C
Hurricane Mk1
Boston
c-47
***Axis***
Ki43
D3A3 sub Ki27
G4M
C-47


*THANKS FOR PLAYING IN THE AXIS vs ALLIES ARENA*

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 11:53:39 AM »
jimson has put an extraordinary amount of work into making this happen folks. They're really first rate.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 12:18:27 PM »
Fun fun fun!
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Re: Starting today
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2013, 04:13:14 PM »
Jimson: Thanks for setting up the Staged Missions. <S>  I hope they get more people into the AvA.  Here are a few thoughts from my experience (other peoples experience is probably different):

1)  The AI are extremely good, both AI fighter pilots and AI gunners.  To me they seem to be as good as any AH player, perhaps even the best.  I'm not sure this is such a good thing.  If you are trying to get people into the AvA, including newcomers, if they are going up against a lot of nearly perfect AI targets and repeatedly get shot down by AI, they may give up.  I know this isn't something you have any control over; it's a decision HTC apparently made.  All I know is that I am an average AH pilot and I didn't really enjoy being repeatedly shot down by AI.  It would be better if the AI matched the abilities of the average AH player, not the best.

2)  Perhaps consider reducing the number of AI targets.  On merge it gets really busy with the sky filled with targets (and friendly AI).  That is confusing and may adversely impact frame rate.

3)  When the mission does the air warp the real person players end up as much as 2K behind the tail end AI players.  (Again something you have no control over, just pointing out a "bug".)

4)  If a player is killed early in the mission he is not going to enjoy having to wait a long time in the tower for the next mission.  It may be better to allow him to either rejoin the mission (which apparently currently has bugs?) or to engage in free flight.  However, free flight is adversely impacted by all the planned warping the enemy AI does: the player sees them on radar and vectors to intercept only to have the AI group suddenly pop up elsewhere.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 04:47:05 PM »
Thanks 715, yeah it's still a work in progress. You can rejoin the mission if there are slots available but we need to educate folks. You need to go to populate mission, click your name and unassign and then click your next plane, and you will get an error if that plane is already shot down. There may be other issues with rejoin. One I know for sure is that joing P40c in progress you have no fuel.

I should probably remove the warps during the middle or near the end of the mission. The one's near the beginning are necessary because no one wants to fly those distances for real.

About the only thing we can really do with AI is set them to patrol and they will only attack when you get within 1500 yards instead of 3000. I'm not sure if they break off attacks at that distance.That and reduce the numbers.

At this moment I have a bunch of AI flying around in there that players can go and engage if they can find and catch them. It's free flight, meaning that you don't have to be in a mission.

Whether that will work or crash the arena I don't know yet.

What would be ideal is to be able to just have AI patrolling the arena most of the time and run the more structured staged missions on a schedule.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 07:32:42 PM »
Thanks 715, yeah it's still a work in progress. You can rejoin the mission if there are slots available but we need to educate folks. You need to go to populate mission, click your name and unassign and then click your next plane, and you will get an error if that plane is already shot down. There may be other issues with rejoin. One I know for sure is that joing P40c in progress you have no fuel.
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Yeah, that was probably my problem: I tried to reup in the same plane I died in (after unassigning myself).  I didn't chose any other plane because they appeared to be in use by the AI.  Am I supposed to chose one of the AI planes and if so do I suddenly appear wherever that AI is, say being attacked by another AI or on the six of an AI or player?

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 08:10:54 PM »
Yeah, that was probably my problem: I tried to reup in the same plane I died in (after unassigning myself).  I didn't chose any other plane because they appeared to be in use by the AI.  Am I supposed to chose one of the AI planes and if so do I suddenly appear wherever that AI is, say being attacked by another AI or on the six of an AI or player?

Yep that's exactly what you do

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 09:53:30 PM »
It was awesome playing in there earlier  :aok

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 07:50:10 AM »
was very cool last night, i defy anyone to try to kill those bomber groups! it was nuts!!!

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 01:01:43 PM »
AI pilots are patrolling the arena right now and you don't have to be in a mission to fight them. Just up and chase them down.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 01:40:02 PM »
I jumped in for a few minutes earlier, does the AI have magical planes? I was at 12k and dove to engage some Betties at 5k, I climbed up when I had a bad angle only to find the Ki-43s just climbed right up after me with no loss of climb rate or anything.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 01:51:31 PM »
They can be a challenge. It's all whatever HTC coded them, we have no ability to adjust their abilities.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 02:47:18 PM »
Ouch, I managed to shoot down 2 of the 4 escorts, but they seem to have magical abilities to fly where I am limited by speed and climb rate, I simply cannot do anything to engage 4 even if i have 15k alt advantage
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Re: Starting today
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2013, 02:56:49 PM »
You can get 2 of them to peel off when you get within 1500 and avoid triggering the other 2.

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Re: Starting today
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 06:15:54 AM »
its actually quite alot of fun, ive been in there every night messing with it!