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Offline earl1937

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« on: September 13, 2013, 03:23:06 PM »
 :airplane: This is not going to go well, but it is something which needs to be added! If you crash upon returning to base, what ever score you scored, kills or damage points should be wiped out.
If you are going to simulate pilot functions, such as kills and damage points, then by gosh, you ought to be able to land the aircraft you checked out of the hangar!! I am constantly amazed at the "good" sticks that I know personally in this game, that upon RTB, they just crash in the middle of the runway, because they know it doesn't hurt their score. (of course, they don't get their name in "lights", but if all you are interested in is scoring, who cares, right?
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 03:40:56 PM »

Scoring wise f you crash on the runway and die it is the same as if you were blown out of the sky.  Or at least I think it is. Now if you mean a ditching.

I see your point but often a crash on the runway is the result of parts missing and or pilot wounds. 

Of course there is my occasional, forget to put the gear down. :)

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 04:00:40 PM »
The problem is, if you were to make it that way, and your plane was damaged in such a way that you're unable to land properly (say gear's shot off) there's no point in RTBing, may as well just auger.  Doesn't gain you anything to RTB.  That's an attractive enough option when you're shot up (gets you back into the fight faster) without encouraging it further.

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 04:24:14 PM »
Historically, kills you scored were not nixed just because you had to belly land your fighter.  Heck, in some cases you could even have the kill counted if you were outright shot down and your fighter was wreckage on the bottom of the ocean.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2013, 10:49:04 AM »
Historically, kills you scored were not nixed just because you had to belly land your fighter.  Heck, in some cases you could even have the kill counted if you were outright shot down and your fighter was wreckage on the bottom of the ocean.
:airplane: Correct and again to my point, if you don't get it back home, however wheels down or up, as long as host shows successful landing, your score should count! If anything but successful RTB, damage incurred on enemy shouldn't count. The reason I am pointing this out is to discourage bailing from bombers after dropping bombs, score hounds bailing to get back in the air faster. If you check out an aircraft from the hangar, you should be responsible for getting it back home or to a friendly base. I see this quite often, where a pilot has no kills or not much damage points, they just bail and go get another aircraft. That is a crock of BS! If you are going to emulate a pilot, then you should act like one, not some nit-wit without enough sense to drive a jeep! LOL
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2013, 02:57:18 PM »
there already is a penalty in the scoring system for not landing successfully. you only get a quarter of the points.


http://www.hitechcreations.com/features/scoring


same for perk points, you don't get the 25% bonus if you don't land successfully.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 12:27:56 PM »
there already is a penalty in the scoring system for not landing successfully. you only get a quarter of the points.


http://www.hitechcreations.com/features/scoring


same for perk points, you don't get the 25% bonus if you don't land successfully.



Kills per death and bails also have an affect.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 08:35:00 PM »
The problem is, if you were to make it that way, and your plane was damaged in such a way that you're unable to land properly (say gear's shot off) there's no point in RTBing, may as well just auger.  Doesn't gain you anything to RTB.  That's an attractive enough option when you're shot up (gets you back into the fight faster) without encouraging it further.

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:airplane: If you RTB and land gear up, under 150MPH, you will get a successful landing message in the text buffer, along with your score on the sortie, as long as you remain on the concrete. If you still have a rudder, you can maintain directional control almost to a stop, even tho you are sliding on belly of a/c.
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Re: No Score
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 08:39:31 PM »
:airplane: If you RTB and land gear up, under 150MPH, you will get a successful landing message in the text buffer, along with your score on the sortie, as long as you remain on the concrete. If you still have a rudder, you can maintain directional control almost to a stop, even tho you are sliding on belly of a/c.

people have landed successfully with no wings, no tail and no wheels.  as long as you end your flight on concrete you are considered to have landed successfully.  how cool is that :).



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Re: No Score
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2013, 09:39:34 PM »
I routinely bail from a perfectly good aircraft, sometimes I never even saw enemy, if I am going to a dar and it dries up, or I find a bigger red dar on the map elsewhere, I most certainly will bail and up elsewhere...

what you are saying is that is wrong and I should RTB and reroll elsewhere....

sorry buddy but AH and especially the MA.... is not a WW2 war game......please stop trying to make it that.


you should start flying the scenarios, and FSO if you don't already......thats the Bees knees....and what you are looking for. :salute

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2013, 10:04:30 PM »
what you are saying is that is wrong and I should RTB and reroll elsewhere....

Not defending the idea here, but sounds like you are conflicted about your score. I mean, his idea only affects those who worry about the consequence of crashing. What exactly is your concern here?  :devil

sorry buddy but AH and especially the MA.... is not a WW2 war game......please stop trying to make it that.

And I thought we settled this one back when you first started using BIG WORDS   

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2013, 10:28:21 PM »
Not defending the idea here, but sounds like you are conflicted about your score. I mean, his idea only affects those who worry about the consequence of crashing. What exactly is your concern here?  :devil

And I thought we settled this one back when you first started using BIG WORDS   

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it is just one of many requests to turn AH into WW2 online....

I am very much against that.

the whole concept of AH's MA is perfect in my mind...a war for the war guys.....GV fights for the GV guys.....bases to roll from no matter what...no one guy can stop others from flying what they want...IE no one can take out the "spit" factory....
it is one giant sandbox for combat.....

the one thing that sux arse...the 12 hr rule. :(




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Re: No Score
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2013, 02:38:29 PM »
I routinely bail from a perfectly good aircraft, sometimes I never even saw enemy, if I am going to a dar and it dries up, or I find a bigger red dar on the map elsewhere, I most certainly will bail and up elsewhere...

what you are saying is that is wrong and I should RTB and reroll elsewhere....

sorry buddy but AH and especially the MA.... is not a WW2 war game......please stop trying to make it that.


you should start flying the scenarios, and FSO if you don't already......thats the Bees knees....and what you are looking for. :salute
:noid This is a "pretend" game, so go ahead and pretend you are shooting down bad guys and have yourself a blast! Personally, this is as good a WW2 sim as there is on line and If I want to go bomb Berlin, or Paris or some other WW2 city, why does that bother you?
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2013, 02:54:55 PM »
Any landing you can walk away from...
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 07:33:09 AM »
The real measure of any wish should be "how does this improve the game?". So, how does this improve the game?
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