HT you are ranking this all WRONG!

[AKDejaVu]

 

I mean it is causing a conflict of interest within my squad.

No, because that is exactly how I took it.  You see, you say this then exclaim that you want it changed now.  You exclaim that here.. when adressing HTC and their scoring system.  Not while adressing your squad.  That is where you forget that you really aren't anyone special when you step into this forum.

 

We want to do well in the ranks, but we also want to fly only the Mustang.

Ah.. being ranked 11th in fighter ops isn't really good enough for you and your squad?  I went through your squad's scores.  It seems that certain aspects of the scoring system are already being manipulated, such as re-arms at hotpads not counting as a sortie.  Do you feel that scoring should be fair or just adjusted to make your squad look better?

Maybe we could also have portions of the scoring system that alot for pilots that only engage when they have a numbers or altitude advantage?  Of course, that's just flying smart... but does it encourage more people to come to the arena?

I'm sorry for you and your squad because you aren't ranked in the Top 10 of fighter squads.  I'm sorry that you have picked a very specific style of flight that doesn't really fit into the scoring system.  I'm sorry that you, like so many others these days, feel that things need to change to accomodate you.

AKDejaVu

[This message has been edited by AKDejaVu (edited 03-07-2001).]

[Kratzer]

rank schmank.

Can my score be updated from now on to say 'Next to last'?

(P.S. I still have fun!)

[BigGun]

 

Originally posted by Voss:
We want to do well in the ranks, but we also want to fly only the Mustang.

Then only care about squad ranks as fighters.

BgMAW

[Moose11]

About this only thing I find wrong with the stats is that one-man squads can be at the top of the squad list.

Not very fair, skews the stats.

[lazs]

LOL...score!   I don't really care about score but I do like the way so many things are tracked.  Seems that anyone can look at the stats and follow the ones he is interested in.   What's wrong with that.

As for this pomposity of feeling that your style is not being ranked high enough... Who cares?  Some may feel that flying P51's around at mega alts looking for the unwary (no matter how long that takes) is not a skill that should particularly earn any extra consideration.  Perhaps time to kill is worth considering since those people put themselves at risk much more often than your 6 kills in seven and a half hours!

Really tho... i don't care.  The best thing is like I said.... Just track as many different stats as possible and let people do with em as they please.
lazs

[Spatula]

I couldnt give a monkies about my 'score' or 'rank' its the stats that im interested in Hit percentage, k/d, sorties/landing, etc. It is the only real qauntatative measure of your performance in the role you like to do - whether thats buffing, furballing, Boomin 'n zoomin, tanking - whatever.

[Pongo]

Seems to be a fundimental misunderstanding in how the point system works. This is not the 100m fly. it is the 2000m medley.
There is no "weighting" in the scoreing. all the stats get an equal piece of the total score. Should they be weighted..I think that some of the skill stats like accuracy should be worth a little more, but then you get people gaming the game for that.
 I have seen the top bomber pilots have accuracy scores that were astronomical. But death rates that were horrible. I deduced that they were not defending themselves while flying buffs except at crazy close ranges. The kill to death did not matter for bomber scores but the accuracy did. So they didnt defend themselves.

You dont need many hours of playing to be a top pilot.Some of the higher scoreing pilots have fewer then 10 hours this tour. I personly love playing all facets of the game and my play fits well into the game scoreing system.  People that only want to fly one plane and more importantly one type of mission with it will have to be extrordinary successful in the particular stats that are based on that to show up in the top level of the score page.
This game is a pentathalon. You are recognised most for being a accoplished generalist on the score page.
But most people that talk about hot pilots dont care where in the score roster the pilot is. I am often rated highty but am only fairly good in ACM. My current score puts me about 100th in fighter rankings. that is very accurate. The guys that are above me are probably better then me at ACM and it shows in that stat. My varied fighter intrest and the multitude of mission types I fly put me at a disadvantage vs many of the top pilots.
People that stress the preeminance of one stat(kill to death in fighters) vs all others miss a very important part of the score system. In maximizing that stat you are ignoring that in real war you recieved orders. You have to try to accomplish them and probably risk your life foolishly to do so. By ignoring the score system you are flying the war without orders and your stats reflect the fact. People that fight HTCs war for them get the medals and get the score recognition. For whatever that is worth.
War isnt smart, strato vulches might keep you alive to get home but they do not progress the war aims of your country and are of only minimal score value. The guys that strato hunt and have hight scores in other areas often gain the bomber and vehicle points in the wee hours under suspicios circumstances. In the main hours of play there are few safe ways to bomb. Especialy on the current map.

[AKSeaWulfe]

Geez Lazs... I'm finding myself beginning to agree with you more and more.

This must be stopped! :-)
-SW

[Westy]

 

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying: Just relax, have fun, and kill everything in sight. -- Todd/DMF

 This is a man who knows what it's all about.   (Image removed from quote.)

 Cause he is wise in the ways of the online  

I think I've "known" DMF for a little over 3 years and he's one of the folk who "get it." He's earned respect from myself and many others not only for his skill as an online "pilot" and but for who he is as a person also.  
 
-Westy

[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by CavemanJ:
All kills/time does is reward the furball-dinnae care of I die pilot with a ranking that isn't necessarily commenserate of thier skill.

How does this differ from patient pilots with a high K/D ratio?  It's a tradeoff one makes based on flying style, and my guess is that AH rewards excellence in both styles by including K/D and time per kill into the equation.

If you want quicker kills, fly into more furballs and climb less.  If you want higher K/D, take the time to climb above fights and avoid sticky situations.

-- Todd/DMF

[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by Beurling:
In aw3 Quakers ruled. Do they here?

Hi, EYE.  

Keep in mind that similar flying styles had similar levels of success in AW3, it's just that stats were computed differently.  The best way to judge yourself against yourself isn't by looking at your overall ranking in relation to others.  Rather, look at all of your stats from tour to tour and compare them against each other.  Ignore rank.

So if you want to measure improvement, see if your K/D ratio has improved from, say, 2:1 to 4:1 over the last three tours.  In that same time, even if your overall rank dropped from 15 to 100, you can be fairly certain that you've improved yourself regardless.

-- Todd/DMF

[Gorf]

Voss,

AH is not trying to be WWII Online, the non-flyable stuff, (in my opion) is there to give a relief to the pilots so they don't get burned out, people that are not that good at aireal combat but want to stay with AH for whatever reason, and to attarct another type of people.

Also, If you don't like it,  go elsewere.

[Staga]

So some of you guys want HTC to change scoring system that it fits better to your flight/combat style?
 
Sounds kinda childish don't you think?

[CavemanJ]

 

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:
How does this differ from patient pilots with a high K/D ratio?  It's a tradeoff one makes based on flying style, and my guess is that AH rewards excellence in both styles by including K/D and time per kill into the equation.

If you want quicker kills, fly into more furballs and climb less.  If you want higher K/D, take the time to climb above fights and avoid sticky situations.

-- Todd/DMF

See the thread in the gameplay/feedback board about the weight of stats on rank.  I've listed two pilots' stats there.  Express your opinion on who should be the higher ranked.

[Voss]

<back now>

Deja, get a grip! I didn't come here to whine like lazs who always has alt on me, BTW. I came here to obviate something I think HT missed. There are users online that don't fly furballs or use every weapon available (sounds like Quake actually).  

I just ask that this be examined with some thought to other styles. You put words in my mouth when you said I want it changed now. I never said that. I was warned ahead of time, that this would never change. Still, it is obvious that I am not alone on this issue.

And WTF is it with you and *thinking* I'm asking for special treatment? You on cold medicine again?  

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