Author Topic: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again  (Read 6001 times)

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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2013, 10:06:29 AM »
    now who's putting words in who's mouth......at no time have i said that the sm-82 would be the ONLY italian aircraft,bomber or other,added to the game.at no time did i ever say that if we get the sm-82  it would replace all other italian bombers.i simply said that it would be a comparable performing TRANSPORT,which the axis needs,AND it could bomb in scenario's and special events and would be useful in those events as a bomber and transport(air sea rescue) and in the main arena as a transport,and by adding the one plane we get the benefits in multi arena's.i HAVE stated that other aircraft are needed. 
  as for performance of transports not  being significant....you should try capturing a base right now...with the hanomag german halftrack.WHEN there are others trying to do the same in the m-3 american halftrack.there is only a small difference in speed performance between those two,but it makes a BIG difference in the actually delivery of troops.   now look at the speed difference between the ju-52 and the c-47,its almost 2x.   that means IF you have no enemy aircraft attacking the transports,the c-47 will get there and let troops out twice as fast as the ju-52. try that a few times and not many people will fly the ju-52 when the c-47 is available....same as it is in game right now between the hanomag german halftrack and the american m-3 halftrack.

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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2013, 10:53:08 AM »
    now who's putting words in who's mouth......at no time have i said that the sm-82 would be the ONLY italian aircraft,bomber or other,added to the game.at no time did i ever say that if we get the sm-82 
You didn't and I didn't say you did.

What I am saying is that is what would happen should the SM.82 be added, your intentions are 100% irrelevant to that outcome just as my intentions regarding the Spitfires VIII and XVI are 100% irrelevant to how they actually get used, or don't as the case is.
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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2013, 09:47:55 AM »
relevence is not the issue. this is a WISHLIST, i have stated my wish,and shown what merits it would have and that it is historically accurate to have in game. it would be more useful in game then just adding one plane of the other planes that were mentioned.

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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2013, 11:36:51 AM »
relevence is not the issue. this is a WISHLIST, i have stated my wish,and shown what merits it would have and that it is historically accurate to have in game. it would be more useful in game then just adding one plane of the other planes that were mentioned.

Methinks you're attempting to push the 'more useful' parameter as something that trumps all others. When taken into context alongside event usefulness and iconic presence the 'more useful' takes a back seat.

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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2013, 12:54:31 PM »
relevence is not the issue. this is a WISHLIST, i have stated my wish,and shown what merits it would have and that it is historically accurate to have in game. it would be more useful in game then just adding one plane of the other planes that were mentioned.
So wish for pink ponies and rainbows?

Sure, if you want, but you won't get it.

If the SM.82 is added we will not get the SM.79-II and the SM.82 will be used as the Italian bomber in all historical events that use an Italian bomber.
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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2013, 05:19:46 PM »
i sure dont remember reading that anywhere. where to you get your made up fantasy information,lol?

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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2013, 06:51:53 PM »
i sure dont remember reading that anywhere. where to you get your made up fantasy information,lol?
I'm sorry, but your comment doesn't make sense.  Please explain what you mean.
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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2013, 08:36:23 PM »
USED BY THE ITALIANS AND GERMANS AND OTHER AXIS NATIONS THROUGHOUT THE WAR.many different camo scemes used wartime,used for axis supply and paratroop jumps and early on was used as a bomber.   a good addition to the axis plane set as it fills many roles including.....italian bomber,italian and german troop and supply transport,africa scenario axis bomber,malta scenario axis bomber,main arena axis supply and troops(unarmed).huge perk point  builder in the bomber catagory.

simply have it armed when bombs are the payload,and unarmed when troops or supply is the payload



General characteristics
Crew: 4
Capacity: 40 troops
Length: 22.9 m (75 ft 1½ in)
Wingspan: 29.68 m (97 ft 4½ in)
Height: 6.0 m (19 ft 8.25 in)
Wing area: 118.6 m² (1,276.64 ft²)
Empty weight: 10,550 kg (bomber 11,200 kg) (23,259 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 18,020 kg (bomber 18,410 kg) (39,727 lb)
Powerplant: 3 × Alfa Romeo 128 RC.21 9-cylinder radial engines, 708 kW (950 hp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 347 km/h (187 kn, 212 mph)
Cruise speed: 250 km/h (135 kn, 125 mph) at 3,000 m (9,840 ft)
Stall speed: 110 km/h (59 kn, 68 mph)
Range: 2,100 km (1,134 nmi, 1,864 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,000 m (19,685 ft)
Armament
1 × 12.7 mm (.5 in) Scotti machine gun in dorsal turret
3 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns in ventral and lateral positions
4,000 kg (8,818 lb) bombload













































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Re: SM-82 CANGARO AXIS TRANSPORT/BOMBER its time....again
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2013, 09:58:18 AM »
you would only have 10 troops as per the game, not 40. and the cargo supplies loadout would be the same as the c-47.